Hihi! PaintballerSig.jpg The Paintballer (T/C) 02:13, 11 September 2007 (CEST)

Mending Soldier is a dead link Himynameisbobbyjoe 03:57, 6 November 2007 (CET)

Build:Me/E SoL Elementalist

Hey, your build has been moved to this link as per PvX:NAME, good luck.--ViYsig5.jpgVictoryisyours (talk/pvxcontribs) 22:50, 21 November 2007 (CET)

Hey, Victoryisyours, I hate to break it to you, dumbass, but it was SoI, Yes an I, not an l, Upper case i not lower case L. It stands for Signet of Illusions. ROFLCAKES RustyTheMesmer 07:28, 3 December 2007 (CET)
Lol, k. ViYsig5.jpgVictoryisyours (talk/RfA) 12:14, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Your userpage messes up the rest of the site. R u using some funny CSS? Otherwise, thanks for voting on Build:Team - Vaettir Butchers --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG Ressmonkey (talk) 04:27, 29 November 2007 (CET)


Has some glitches. Seems the bar at the top (The one with user page, discussion, etc) grows smaller. See if you can fix it. If not, go ask Victoryisyours, he's usually good with this type of stuff. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 17:03, 29 December 2007 (EST)

lolwut he sucks at coding xD Hammer And Sickle.png

viзтиαмзѕз 17:06, 29 December 2007 (EST)

no clue why it does that o.0, is it really that big a deal though, there are about 100 other things i'd rather do.Under Gunned 22:41, 29 December 2007 (EST)
I'd love to hear them xD.--ViYsig5.jpgVictoryisyours (talk/RfA) 23:01, 29 December 2007 (EST)
Was that sarcasm?Under Gunned 23:09, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Lol I fixed your user page, your * before your ranger userbox caused it, I don't even know why.--ViYsig5.jpgVictoryisyours (talk/RfA) 23:06, 29 December 2007 (EST)

thxUnder Gunned 23:09, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Nice move

Shogunshen Sig.jpg Shen(contribs) 12:16, 30 December 2007 (EST)

yeah, once again I realized that I am an idiot and changed itUnder Gunned 12:18, 30 December 2007 (EST)

PvX:NPA, don't do it against yourself either.--ViYsig5.jpgVictoryisyours (talk/RfA) 12:19, 30 December 2007 (EST)
Why I changedUnder Gunned 12:20, 30 December 2007 (EST)
I was kidding, you called yourself an idiot. ViYsig5.jpgVictoryisyours (talk/RfA) 12:20, 30 December 2007 (EST)
So, when do we start banning people for attacking themselves? :P Lord Belar 12:25, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Look at ViY and Shen's Talks. :O --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 14:03, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Policy Nazi

If you like that, just go to the official wiki.Bob fregman 22:43, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Official Wiki dosen't have builds, sry, but why have policies if your just going to do whatever the heck you feel like doing anywayUnder Gunned 22:56, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Yes they do. :P Lord Belar 23:04, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Rofl, yeah I guess they do lol.Under Gunned 23:06, 9 January 2008 (EST)
I would also like to note that they have more R/X Barragers than we do. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 23:07, 9 January 2008 (EST)
After looking at that I have decided that it was the funniest thing I've seen today. Also I like the goals of this wiki more, from what I gathered in .25 seconds of looking at policies/discussions they are radicals at only storing meta builds.Under Gunned 23:11, 9 January 2008 (EST)

As to your inital question, policies are guidelines meant to direct your actions, but they are not always right for every situation, hence ignore all rules, and in addition some bannable offenses arent written in policy. Policy naziing can be countered by wiki-lawyering, which is bad.Bob fregman 17:34, 10 January 2008 (EST)

Hmmmz so does the screw the rules rule supersede the Real Vetting Rule?Under Gunned 19:15, 10 January 2008 (EST)
Not really, no. Real Vetting isn't really the type of thing you can get around. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 19:17, 10 January 2008 (EST)
Ok, guess its a tolerable policy for me then lol, I don't see how that policy should really effect me liking the higher ups to follow the policies, that rule seems to be instilled more for the noobs trying to contribute, saint or loophole, I'd rather have policy nazis in the administration lol.Under Gunned 19:21, 10 January 2008 (EST)
How has anyone ever tried to ignore real vetting? do they give builds a 6?Bob fregman 20:03, 10 January 2008 (EST)
Yeh, tell me if you've never seen any of the below happen, I'll give you some build links
  • A vote must constitute an objective judgment of the build's qualities. It must not be biased by sympathy or any other prejudice regarding the author. This applies in particular to votes given by authors themselves or their friends. Votes that deliberately overshoot in favoring or unfavoring a build in order to 'compensate' another vote are not acceptable either.
  • A vote may not be submitted by a sock puppet. Users who didn't edit a single page on the wiki yet are in general suspected to be sock puppets and their votes are subject to removal.
  • A vote, including the comment, must be self-consistent. That is, the ratings and the comment may not contradict each other. The comment should explain all ratings instead. Likewise, a rating of e.g. Zero in Effectiveness and 5 in Universality is considered contradictory.
  • A vote may not constitute vandalism or violate NPA. It may not be overly rude, attack the author or in another way disrupt the wiki.
  • A vote must be based on facts. Votes that are entirely based on a false premise, flagrantly misrepresent a build's ability or demonstrate a minimal understanding of in-game mechanics are considered invalid.
  • A build that works, but is clearly inferior to another build, should get a lower rating than this other build. However, the rating should still be higher than for a build that doesn't work at all. Only builds that serve the same purpose may be compared in that way.
  • The weighting of the ratings on the different criteria is defined by this policy. Voters who don't agree with the current weighting should address that on the policy's talk page. It is not admissible to give false ratings on individual criteria in order to circumvent the weighting scheme.Under Gunned 21:42, 10 January 2008 (EST)
w.e your not that bright but as long as you stay out of my country there's no problem.Bob fregman 18:03, 11 January 2008 (EST)
watch the NPA now roflUnder Gunned 18:46, 11 January 2008 (EST)
There's no npa there.Bob fregman 20:00, 11 January 2008 (EST)
In addition, mr policy nazi. Since this discussion is about you, comments made at you are relevant, derogatory or not. For example, if we were discussing a build, if i were to call you an idiot, that would be NPA, since id be attacking you instead of arguing the content of the article. Since this discussion is about you, you need to provide that you are in fact bright to argue that me saying anything to the contrary qualifies as NPA. Your accusing me of NPA is not something to be done lightly, according to the policy.Bob fregman 20:03, 11 January 2008 (EST)
lol, k, last I checked this was a discussion on the validity of following policy as opposed to disregarding it, both acceptable options as long as Ignore all Rules is present. My argument was that the policy should be adhered to since you know, it was written up and everyone agreed to it. Everyone also agreed about the ignore all rules policy, so there my logic would be flawed, looking at that policy's talk page though, it was vetted more as support for users to contribute than a way for everyone who knows better to get away with stuff, you saying I wasn't to bright had nadda to do with that. Sorry if I was under the wrong impression about this conversation.<<---edited post 4 times due to bad brain to keyboard translation and rechecking the above conversation :)Under Gunned 20:27, 11 January 2008 (EST)
I wasn't aware that everyone agreed on all the policies, what a utopia this wiki really is.Bob fregman 20:41, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Ok, I don't feel like reading all of that, but @Undergunned, PvXwiki:Ignore All Rules basically means follow the spirit of the rule rather than doing exactly what it says. Bob, the sarcasm doesn't make this conversation any less pointless. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 20:51, 11 January 2008 (EST)

true, but it does make it more interesting.Bob fregman 22:04, 11 January 2008 (EST)

signature trial and error

I stink at this sort of coding so i'm testing hereUnder Gunned 10:00, 7 June 2008 (EDT) is bold betterUnder Gunned 10:30, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

still chuggingUnder Gunned 10:33, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeah i'm being noob and can't figure out how to get the thumbnails up so if anybody wants to help with that feel free. can't find anything about how to actually uploadUnder Gunned 10:51, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Ok i think i figured it out Under Gunned 12:05, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

allrighty this is it!Image- (PvP).jpg Under Gunned 12:11, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Personally i'd use it like this: UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned ...but whatever =). (the word 'gunned' is a link to this page so doesn't show up) Rupert=Hawt Rupert bear sig.jpg16:18{GMT}7-06-MMVIII
Sweet, thx alot that was the next thing i was going to try and do lol--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 12:24, 7 June 2008 (EDT)
i'm trying the small thing--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 16:41, 7 June 2008 (EDT)


Try to not do it. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 23:29, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

what spam? I haven't entered any spam as of late. If your talking about what I just entered on your user page I was just sending a fairly minimalized agreement to his opinion :)--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 23:31, 18 June 2008 (EDT)


I'm finding my design everywhere. It's crazy. Anywho, if you want me to fix some of the boxes, gimme a shout. - Talk S W T 20:06, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Well in that case you are my userpage hero :). I'll also be sure to do that if I can't figure it out myself lol, trying to learn the coding myself.--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 20:34, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Debates page

Not mainspace-worthy. User:Undergunned/Debates. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:45, 19 July 2008 (EDT) sry bout that :/--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 20:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

Build:A/E AoD shock

Has been moved to Build:A/E AoD Shock as per PvX:NAME. I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3.jpgEnter my contest! 00:22, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Hurricanes Suck

Anyone trolling RC getting hit by Ike?--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 19:59, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

No, but my parents dislike high gas prices. -Jax010//healingp=0 20:12, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

Expect more, this hurricane is supposed to be shutting down more plants. Predicted increases of up to five dollars/gallon. As of now all Louisiana plants are still up are running circulation, meaning that production has stopped but will resume as soon as weather subsides, granted electricity isn't lost (which it probobly will be). If the electricity goes out it will be two to three weeks before all plants will be running at full operation, just going by what my step-dad told me.--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 20:53, 12 September 2008 (EDT)


Don't break it, especially when you are wrong. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 15:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Not wrong, yall are just being asses lol. Obviously five people don't like it just vet it. Its ok vote button stil works. WELL=/=vote --UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 15:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
It's inferior to a warrior primary with off-character SoH. The only place you couldn't do that is RA where it's inferior to everything. Similar builds have been trashed previously, WELL is valid. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 15:14, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
WELL is OP'd lolz. Why bother with a vet process if people can just WELL builds they don't like. Just put everything else under great, if its good it will have a META tag (talking about pvp) and people will know which builds to use anyway.--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 15:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Also your comparing one compressed bar to two bars. That dosen't seem fair especially since this is tagged for RA--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 15:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
In RA SoH gives +5 damage. Do you really want to argue that isn't terrible? The whole purpose of WELL is to keep terrible builds off the site. Mission accomplished. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 15:20, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I would never argue in favor of SoH in pvp, but its not like its hurting anything, its just an easy vote as opposed to hulksmashing everything...WELL OP casual users trying to make contrib, which defeats purpose of Wiki.--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 15:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Casual users are welcome to make non-terrible contributions. I guarantee that if someone added a note to SoH (PvP) on GWW saying "Great to cast on yourself in RA" that contribution would also be deleted. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 15:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Yea well your a big Stupidhead! /giveup and walk off--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 15:28, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Please don't violate PvX:NPA, we have already had one ban because of that today. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 15:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
yes mr. sir. sir. yes mr. sir. sir. go get a life ffs im trying to play gw hur--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 15:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Still at work, can't play GWs yet. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 15:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah, i'd be cranky too, sorry then mate--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 15:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Big Stupidhead...--Relyk 15:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah i didn't think it would be taken as actual NPA due to the extreme lameness of insult.--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 16:05, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


Second violation of 1RV: [1]. It's just retarded no u spam, why would you even want that. --- VipermagiSig.JPG -- (contribs) (talk) 12:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh pwnge said he got an RV figured I did too, was being too lazy to look at policy again, its a trash build anyway and I found it a bit humorous. People that removed it need to get the sticks out of their asses.--UnderImage- (PvP).jpgGunned 16:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Just so you know, I'm below average at monking and it's Sealed Deck, AND...Monks have SHIT today. So it'll be damn interesting. :> Ben..Squint 01:20, October 29, 2009 (UTC)