Diablo 2

Go here, way better than original imo. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 21:57, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

And if your going to keep screwing around on hero editor, make an item that gives 100% chance to reanimate as sarcophagus (or whatever spawns all those mummies, I don't remember the exact name) for some epic lulz. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 22:00, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
Lol, I did that with the Demon Hut, with hilarious results. xD — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 22:20, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
And there's an anomalie with Diablo's Lightning Attack. Even though you reanimate him as an ally, his lightning autotargets your character. Deals no damage though, but funny enough to mention. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 22:28, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
Another interesting thing to do is making an item that gives tons to Dragon Talon then loading up on 100% ctc on attack effects. IIRC it only works for assassins though. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 03:53, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
For even more lulz, Put two swords on a barb one with reanimate Diablo and the other Raise Skeleton and Mage Skeleton on Strike(127%) then just run around with whirlwind. Riff 10:05, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
That mod Pwnzer linked to is epic. At first I was like lol, wth, so big damage on skills, so cheap throwing knives (I started game as an Assassin)... But then I noticed the range some monsters have, boosted speed, higher difficulty, less cash... But looks fun. Only Barbarian is ALMOST unchanged, everything else has something new/different. For example, Druid can charm demons, Paladin is more of a "good & evil" instead of pure good, sorc steals energy, assassin has better traps and focuses on ranged damage instead of melee, throwing weapons are USEFUL (barrage of attacks, huge AoE and a chance to hit all monsters around ya - that + poison = win)... Great, just great. Too bad no B.Net ;/ — Abedeus User Abedeus Sig.jpg 11:57, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
I really like Median. And imo, the Barbarian is quite a lot different. Summons (those weird Spirits, and towers, lol), and no lame passives. Sorc doesn't steal Energy. Just regaining X% Mana and dealing X*Y damage to target. Or just the damage, depending on which skill you use. And of course, the normal Elemental skills. I hate Glacial Nova for it's hellish 15 spell timer, which is timered with Inner Fire, Meteor Storm and one other pretty big spell. Bah. Otherwise it's probably the coolest spell available, imo.
Assassins can focus on Melee damage too, still. It's approx 50/50 split.
Another great thing about it is that Energy actually has a use now, and you have a reason to not just have 150str/dex and 500 Vit, base Energy. Str/Dex greatly affects weapon damage, and Energy affects Spell damage. I really like that.
And Hatred (normal) is just too easy. -- 18:53, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
If your a Judgesin (like me), everything is too easy. Judgesins are probably the most overpowered characters there are. For example, I was able to do Cathedral of Vanity on Destruction difficulty at lvl 110 with just 5k health (if your wondering why I only have 5k health, it is because I'm saving my attributes for the 1k attribute challenge). Median XL is going to mostly fix the easiness problem though. It will probably be way more fun. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 03:19, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
I don't run specific builds, since I've actually never done that; takes away from the fun if you know you're going to wtfpwn everything in the end. I'm trying at least attribute challenge 1 and 2 on a meh-Paladin, which might just not work out that well. Unholy really is sub-par to Holy :<
Just remembered one thing I really hate about Median: Mercs cant take a hit without dying later on. An attribute-challenge Character, with extremely sub par Vit, has thrice, if not more than thrice the HP of a Merc and if you're any smart you can dodge Gargoyle Traps. Unlike Mercs who tank them and explode. -- 04:55, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
Get a barb merc. They have tons of hp and have avoid. They can also wear a unique helm that gives even more avoid. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 06:14, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

move from some other page

Wow, just wow. I could say something that would be completely true and completely violate about 20 policies (even though they're aren't 20), but I feel it's better up in my head. I think anyone whose with Snow Bunny (me, atleast) knows what I'm thinking. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:58, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

That's one of those edits I'm talking about. Continious abuse of the AN and "lol, savepage" and "lol, rate" without thinking. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 20:01, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Only reason I'm not posting my mind currently is because apparently you don't like that. And I would probably violate NPA as well. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:02, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
You make it seem like 1) Your supposed edit is worth discussing and 2) Read 1. You're not arguing your own case any better at all. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 20:03, 25 July 2008 (EDT)


remove others (my) comments. You may be an admin, but you're not bulletproof to rules. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:07, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

It's more hilarious that you're trying to enforce that rule, while you continually break others. It's moved, because it's irrelevant to the discussion. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 20:09, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
To make it clearer for you "Wow, I could say something that could break rules" is not relevant to that discussion. It's about as useful as saying "wow, piplups" and than complaining about it being removed. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 20:10, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
half this wiki isnt relevent imo--TheNoobPolice 07:28, 31 July 2008 (EDT)


Or account name. Feel like sharing? - Talk S W T 09:24, 26 July 2008 (EDT)


crap, people can't vote on Coward Paras. I lol'd at Recent Ratings. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:10, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

Many of those votes you removed weren't bad. Calling Coward a ranged, adren based Bulls doesn't warrant removal, as it justifies the Effectiveness vote. It just means the build handles kiters well. Of course it could be worded better, but bad, but still easily understood, wording hardly calls for vote removal. A vote that seriously violates the above rules may be brought to admin attention and, if that is deemed appropriate, will be stricken. Those votes don't. - Talk S W T 17:38, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
5-5-5s were innapropriate, it's overstating the effectiveness. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 17:41, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm well aware of that, but not all are overrated. Lloyd's vote, for example, was removed for mentioning outside healing, despite the rest of the comment, as well as the numbers, were entirely fair. Stating something obvious is not a reason for removal. - Talk S W T 17:45, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
I think that was removed like months ago, not in the Rapta purge. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 17:47, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
You're right. Still, my point stands. - Talk S W T 17:49, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
Can you help me with something...someone left a questionable vote on by build Build:A/any MoI Spiker Even though he says the chain is decent and the build works very well, he rated it a 0-0-0. Can you help me if you can? TY--Manbeast15 23:48, 30 July 2008 (EDT)


we cant well them?----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig.PNG 22:59, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Mhm. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 23:00, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
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Team_-_Paraway_Pressure (talk · rate)

Which would be best on the Stunning Paragon, Merciless or Vicious for DW? Merciless will be charged in 3 hits/seconds and doesn't require energy (meaning "GftE!" will return energy instead of being negated by Vicious), but Vicious is slightly less conditional. I still would rather not take Cruel Spear instead of Stunning Strike, because you can maintain Daze on two foes with Stunning Strike+Dark Fury and that>a less conditional DW, imo. About the frontliners, they barely need energy at all, and if it does become a problem, spamming Sun and Moon Slash with a Zealous Sword for 2 energy per use means lotsa energy gain. Imo, SaMS spam for 100+ DPS>maintainable IAS and IMS, too. ــмıкεнaшк 23:02, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

It's not that they need energy. You want them to abuse leadership like a Paragon should. If not, you might as well be running a Sword warrior with FGJ and getting a larger return on your investment. Plus, you get Crippled. And Death's Charge + Spear Swipe on your Spear para lets you take those Warriors. But that'll give you that [apr] build. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 23:03, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
The change to "FGJ!" means that it wouldn't double the adrenaline gain from Dark Fury, and because of it, those Paragons would deal more damage, which is also unblockable (they should average 108 damage per use of SaMS). I understand what you mean about Leadership abuse, but Deadly Arts Caster sins don't use Critical Strikes, and they aren't completely hated because of it. XD ــмıкεнaшк 23:13, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
That's not really necessary. Sure, the extra adrenaline's nice, but at one point, it's overkill. And quite a large problem is this build being unable to split. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 23:30, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
The cripshot can. XD Anyway, Build:Team_-_Condition_Pressure would have the same problem, although it uses Enraging Charge on the Magehunter's. Should I take "Make Haste!" or Godspeed on one or two of the bars (likely instead of Rez on the Sword Paragons, because there isn't much else to substitute in the team)? ــмıкεнaшк 23:40, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
Pretty sure that build can split. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 23:50, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
I don't really see much difference, tbh. Instead of the Hammer, I've got a Spear; instead of the Degen Spammer, I've got Cripshot and instead of the CC Runner, I've got an Orders Flagger (which won't kill on its own with ~30 DPS, but can assist in spikes, although a little less than what the Orders Flagger contributes). The biggest difference in general team composition (the builds are still fairly different in that the one I submitted uses Paragons XD) is the Spear instead of Hammer, imo. ــмıкεнaшк 23:59, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
But then that existing build you keep linking to achieves the same, but does it better, and the Para build would be WELL'd. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 00:01, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
They aren't inferior to one another; the one I submitted sacrifices KD for lolDaze and a lot more DPS through Orders and spamming unblockable double hits. ــмıкεнaшк 00:05, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
Pretty sure there's a lot more to it than that. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 16:45, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
Ughh, the ratings about Swords>Axes were restored. The Swords are great pressure/DPS and spike with the buffs (I've got some numbers on the talk page, whether they're important or not), and even when the Orders go down, you still average ~63 DPS (50 if SoH is stripped). Also, I added Godspeed (which lasts 93% of the time) in hope to improve splitting, and for your "perma IAS + IMS fun", but you still obviously have to cancel Frenzy. I still find that overkill on Daze>a little extra DW. "We Shall Return!" was replaced by Godspeed, making Armond's vote inaccurate, as well. ــмıкεнaшк 13:51, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
You'll have to ask Armond about it then. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 14:01, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Do whatever the hell you want. It's not worth me wasting my time trying to stop you anymore. Not unless Auron or DE bitch at me, at least. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 22:16, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Do what? He has a question about your vote. It's not an issue he's supposed to bring to me. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 00:31, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Build:P/W_Soldier's_Fury_Sword had been rated down initially, but things turned around for it because it was severely underestimated (as I think the build I submitted is). That build was created around them (well, a nearly identical build) and, in my opinion, makes the best use of their conditions and specific attack skills (unblockable double hits for loldmg). ــмıкεнaшк 22:27, 4 August 2008 (EDT)


Is there a specific place I would go to talk about unarchiving builds. Theres 2 of them that I don't understand why they are archived. 1 is the stygian solo farmer N/R Build its an efficient way to SOLO FARM Stygian gems but the reason was about profit? Imo its alot more satisfying to earn the gems on your own then buying them. 2. is the A/R Razajan solo farmer. it doesnm;t even have a reasdon and the votes are all fail because they can't figure out the run. I'm pretty sure a vote shouldn't be on how easy a build is to use but if its usable in more than one place and if it does what its suppossed to do effectively. I'm pretty sure we don't have any other builds on the site that Solo stygians or Razajan. ( I did post a variant A/W but it got vetted down). People keep thinking profit but thats not what ALL builds are for. Atleast thats my opinion. Get back to me on my talkpage if you feel inclined. Bluerask 06:54, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

I thout u were blocked. -.- Zzzzz--Xfire14siggy.png 10:30, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
Not anymore. Dont was being cute. --Srs Beans 10:34, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
Archival does not mean it does no longer work. In fact, quite a large number of the archived builds still do work. However, they're often just outdated and/or replaced by newer version(s) of the build. They will usually still work. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 21:53, 2 August 2008 (EDT)
Still whats the point of them being Archived if they are still efficient. It isn't outdated people still go for torm weapons. it hasn't been replaced by anything I know about and the excuse was about profit which has nothing to do with what the build was about. I say move it back to tested farming builds. Atleast thats my opinion on the matter.Image Signet of Malice.jpg Rask of Shadows. 01:37, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
I just checked the archival reasoning. It says that the profit was low. In fact, profit in a farming build is the most important factor when deciding to vet/archive a build. If what it farms isn't worthwhile anymore, it should be archived. You're wrong on that key point. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 13:51, 4 August 2008 (EDT)


You, Me, My talk page. Now. Please xD Image Signet of Malice.jpg Rask of Shadows. 00:03, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

I don't see anything worth discussing there. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 13:53, 4 August 2008 (EDT)


Do you have MSN Messenger? If so, could you get online? If not, is there some other way I can speak with you privately in real time? Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 22:29, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

It says it on his page TBH. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 22:32, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
That might be helpful if, you know, I still had GuildWars installed, unfortunately... Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 22:34, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Sorry, I'm an idiot and was looking at your page. Don't mind me. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 22:35, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Don't worry, I never do. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 22:35, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Wait, nobody else lol'd at this? lol —SkaKidSkakidasaur.gif 01:30, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
lol.--Reason.decrystallized 07:37, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
You made a typo there. I think you meant to say you fortunately don't have GW installed. --User:IbreaktoiletsTab Moo 14:27, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

RE:Your Vote on Build:N/any Hybrid MoP MM

The build that you were looking for is here. IAmJebus sig2.jpg*Jebus* Is I Enter my contest! 16:11, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Hex Breaker Monk Backline

U deleted it, whit reason the reason "LoL"... May i ask why since there allready is a Aegis Monkbackline and a Ha HB/SoD backline page? Plz if possible bring it back just so i can save it.. Used kinda long time on it and it was allready Great.. And u just deleted whitout saying anything at talk page, (altough i dont know the rules for admin deleting etc) i just think you could discussed it a bit before,since Hex Breaker is tbh 50% of the top200 guild today even moar :/ Massive Image-Massive Sig.jpg 16:01, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

  1. (Slettingslogg); 18:20 . . Rapta (Diskusjon | bidrag) (deleted "Build:Team - GvG 2 Monk Hexbreaker Backline")
  2. (diff) (hist) . . m Build:A/D Grenths Shadow‎; 18:19 . . (+67) . . Selket Shadowdancer (Diskusjon | bidrag) (→Variants - )
  3. (Slettingslogg); 18:19 . . Rapta (Diskusjon | bidrag) (deleted "Build talk:Team - GvG 2 Monk Hexbreaker Backline": You've got to be kidding me.)

If it helps anything :/ Massive Image-Massive Sig.jpg 16:04, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Having a 2 monk backline build is pushing it far enough, you can hardly call it a team/build. Just make a general 2 monk backline with loads optionals. Frosty No U! 16:07, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Ok! I understand your statement but still we do have a GvG Aegis Backline and a HA HB/RC Backline, why not have the Hex Breaker when its almost used more than the Hex Breaker? Massive Image-Massive Sig.jpg 16:10, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Because it's pointless having all these "mini builds", like I said it was a stretch with the original one. Making a all purpuse 2 monk backline build (with Aegis chains and hex breaker in optionals) would sort it out. Frosty No U! 16:12, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
We actually made an Eviscerate Warrior build to combine all those PvP axe builds, so there's no reason to keep making dupes of other builds instead of just adding to the current ones, merging, or making a universal one. ــмıкεнaшк 16:13, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Okai, i can merge it whit the other one or make 2 builds, altough i would greatly appriciate to have the other For the MIni skillbars and description etc etc :/ Massive Image-Massive Sig.jpg 16:17, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Fuck it w/e -.- Massive Image-Massive Sig.jpg 16:21, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

Give people time to respond to your queries. Rapta probably has other things to do apart from sit at his computer waiting anxiously for you to complain about something to him. --User:IbreaktoiletsTab Moo 16:24, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
also you waited four minutes, chill out. Riff 00:34, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

When i said w/e i ment i just made the Skillbars etc myself instead of waiting for him nothing more oO Massive Image-Massive Sig.jpg 10:19, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

That page isn't needed. Hex Breaker is a trivial skill and doesn't require its own backline page. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:16, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Concept Art

Rapta I wanted to ask if my concept art page is going to be alright because alot of people like seeing how guildwars COULD have been. Plus I'm super paranoid about you banning me cuz you don't talk to me at all <.<. Rask'snewsig.jpg Rask of Shadows 12:50, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Why were you banned in the first place? :/ ــмıкεнaшк 12:54, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
I went insane on the admin notice board, Blanked random builds and spammed the eviscerate thingy, and avoided about 20 or so bans on several I.P.'s. Then Dont and me talked and we came up with a solution so I'm using my abilities for better things E.G.leet builds Rask'snewsig.jpg Rask of Shadows 12:57, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
It's fine, as far as I see. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:16, 8 August 2008 (EDT)


i know about posting on the builds talkpage, but Gil already mentioned it on the page, it seemed pointless to bring it up again...~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix.jpg 15:25, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

It doesn't make sense to immediately jump to the AN after less than a day of discussion. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:28, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
hmm true, i wasn't really thinking about how long it had been up there XD. gomen! ~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix.jpg 15:36, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Build merge?

Hey Rapta, could you merge two builds for me? I created Build:Team - Post-nerf Ursanway after searching and not finding Build:Team - Post-Nerf Ursanway somehow. I'd like the two to be compared to figure out which one is better. Crimson 15:53, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

The second one you linked to makes more sense to keep since it's the same thing, but more flexible. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:39, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Enduring Flail vote

Asuran Scan now has instant cast time. Please consider changing vote. Danstokes 16:06, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 16:34, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Alart Halp

I was wondering if you could look at something for me? The links at the bottom of my talk page. UA team build that is hilarious imo and might be viable. Made it for lulz mostly but the idea is not bad. Raskagain.jpg Rask Attack! 00:21, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Spends too much time ressing and buffing and not enough time killing. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 00:28, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Death nova's are like 600 armor ignoring plus the biles. Most of the time things should die first time around. Maybe have one of the monks take EoE? Lol if it can't be saved Its cool. I just think its epicly hilarious xDRaskagain.jpg Rask Attack! 00:30, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Well, you can go ahead and test it out and then submit it for testing. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 00:31, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Getting people to test it with won't be easy. "Hey wanna come commit suicide with me for an hour...?" Lmao I can try to get guildies I guess. If you want I'll make a video if it works XD. Lmao Sure makes things simpler though. Considering Dark aura with 3 BotM is 150 A-I dmg and theres 6 of them. Grouping up is the only problem. Need a target caller I guess.Raskagain.jpg Rask Attack! 00:35, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Well, that's actually can be considered a rating criteria. You know... how easy you can assemble a group with for it. Well, that usually applies to general builds. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 00:37, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Pug wouldn't work with this. You need coordination on the spikes. I was thinking this would be more of a pro build less of a omg ursan build. It has the power but needs the skill to use it properly. I don't care if it gets vetted or not. I just wanna see if it works. Raskagain.jpg Rask Attack! 00:55, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Delete. All. Paraway builds. You'll never get 8 Paragons. However, slitway with Death Nova and Dark Aura bombing can be ran on a secondary Necro too. Thus, shouldn't be hard to find a group if it proves effective. --Srs Bean Mafia. Srs Beans R Srs 06:18, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
tbh, unless you know people or have lots of skilled guildies, getting any PUG group together with any of the team builds on here would be just about impossible. let's just delete all of em? Cedave bad.png ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 15:19, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
What paraway build would that be? — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 16:48, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Build:Team - Dual Hero Powerhealers

There was a consensus on the talk page that it wasnt a dupe. Please restore and stop being a dick. Just because you dont like something doesnt mean u get to delete it. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG Ressmonkey (talk) 17:26, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Consensus? You mean two people? Oh, right, I'll just copypaste a build onto a page, get two people to agree with me, and call it "consensus". It still doesn't change the fact that it's two "great" builds copypasted onto one build page, and you add Arcane Mimicry. It doesn't take someone brilliant to make a build like that. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 17:28, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
3, im pretty sure. 4 with me. And there were no opposed except you. Also, innovation doesnt mean a damn thing since its not in the ratings anymore. Also, it doesnt take a brilliant person to put 6 SF eles in a build with 2 monks and call it an HA build, but we have that. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG Ressmonkey (talk) 17:39, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Unfortunatly, 4 is wrong. And you're forgetting that one build is an HA build that rolls. And "this situation is sorta like X PvP build's situation" has never really worked. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 17:40, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Then that 5 frontliner build. There have got to be lots of examples of totally unoriginal team builds that are vetted. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG Ressmonkey (talk) 17:44, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Yes, there are. Except they actually have synergies that warrant having them around. There may be some that you can bring to my attention though, so feel free to continue bringing up examples. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 17:46, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Theres really no more synergy between 5 melee, and imbagon, an orders,a nd a healer then there is between HB and UA. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG Ressmonkey (talk) 17:48, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Rofl, right. There's no synergy between an orders buffing 5 physicals, an imbagon reducing the need to have more than one healer, getting damage boosts and adrenaline buff from the Orders, and having the orders provide more healing. And here was me, thinking those 3 builds have synergy. I'll get on with deleting that then. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 17:53, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Rapta is right on that one lol, that has like 80 times more synergy =\ The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 17:53, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
And theres no synergy at all between HB an UA. After all, its not like they compound multiplicitively or that you can get a 300 heal for 5 energy. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG Ressmonkey (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
...I don't think you understand this synergy thing. The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 17:56, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
(ec) Not enough to warrant its own build. Slide a line of "this works well with UA monk" into the existing ones if you have such a huge issue with this. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 17:57, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
There is a difference between 8 builds synergising together in a way where they wouldn't work outside of that setting, to taking 2 monks. The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 18:00, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Exactly. Also, (off-topic), this whole thing with "race to make as many builds as possible with newly buffed skills" is really stupid. ANet needs to stop making updates. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Revert to prophs beta. Long live party wide rodgorts. The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 18:03, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Don't forget deep freeze. And stuff like fire storm being nearby. –Ichigo724Ichigo-signature.jpg 18:06, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
In condition heavy meta, I still prefer RC. --Readem 18:07, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Readem, I still see i have taught you nothing. PD is best as an elite for your mo. The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 18:09, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

@Rapta: or they should just make small updates more often instead of making everyone's heads explode. We've got Build:Team_-_BiP_Leeroy-Healers (the synergy between stronger heals and a BiP Orders is too obvious to warrant another page), Build:Mo/any_The_Deep_Monk (only difference from a normal HB is two optionals and a lot of suggestions, whereas a guide would have better benefits) and Build:Team_-_Arcane_Mimicry_Monks (which, since the buff to UA isn't actually any better than the build Ressmonkey submitted). The build should be restored, and Arcane Mimicry Monks should be archived, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 18:15, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

I could, or just delete them. There's complaints of those builds being dupes on the talk page anyways. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 18:21, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
lol, that made me smile. I <3 when obvious dupes get deleted. XD ــмıкεнaшк 18:24, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Me and Auron (or was it DE? =s) were saying on IRC the other day, we should basically jsut stick everything back into testing and revet everything (becasue just about everything does), i say we do that, and then get rid of the obvious Dupes! ~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix.jpg 18:33, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
Just to see which build is the best if they dupe each other? I wouldn't do it for every build, though, because some are original enough, and usually, different Elite skills, even if the usage is the same or similar to another build, warrant additional build pages. ــмıкεнaшк 18:39, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

Build:Mo/any Unyielding Healer

[1] It isn't as simple as just putting it on a Healer's Boon bar, and even then, they're different Elites. Yes, it provides room for bar compression, but the fact that it frees your secondary (by taking Divine Healing+Heaven's Delight) makes it BETTER than HB on heroes (because you can add P-Drain and Waste Not, Want Not to their bars because you aren't restricted to using GoLE with Heal Party) or Serpent's Quickness and Dwarven Stability to their bars). I've got long explanations as to why Unyielding Aura can be better than HB here. I'm not sure if it was you who deleted the build, but it should be restored, tbh, because Unyielding Aura is worth more than just a variant in the HB build. ــмıкεнaшк 10:22, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

First of all, you're citing a user page for your "explanation", which is generally a bad idea. Second, the "Frees up your secondary" has never been a valid argument. People need to start using their brains more. And third, you run Unyielding for two reasons: 1) You want healing, but don't want to spec into healing; that's covered in that prot bar. 2) You really want that ressing part; you slot it into the HB bar. None of those long explanations make any sense, since they're just stupid healing calculations and complaints about wanting to heal for that little more. If that's what you want, you'd run a WoH bar or something. That logic is on par with testing builds on the Master of Damage. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:11, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
What advantages were there to running HB over that UA Healer bar? Half a second off of Dwayna's Kiss, and party healing that affects everyone on the compass instead of in Earshot (which, doesn't make a difference for the majority of the time) and that's it. Heal Party+GoLE restricts you to an Elementalist secondary and using party heals twice every 30 seconds. Heroes aren't great with GoLE, whereas interrupts better suit their bars and that 1 pip of energy lost doesn't mean a thing when you can heal your party twice as often for 5 energy and take Mesmer skills for energy management. Also, WoH seems rather disregarded with Healer's Boon in PvE. ــмıкεнaшк 15:26, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Fast casting every damn skill that you have. It also means that people with terrible reflexes can run it (kinda important since a lot of PvE'ers are well... bad. Oh, wait, you run UA so you can die and ress them because you missed the heal, rather than running HB and not letting them die in the first place. GoLE makes you an /E. So what? Why do you have a problem switching to /E? That's a stupid argument, especially since now you don't have to go to a prof changer every time you want to switch profs. It's "lol, load template". And if heroes aren't so great with GoLE, put a note in variants. And do you know what makes a bar better? Not having to interrupt to regain energy. Sure, you can have "more energy", but why have it if you don't need it? Heroes usually have better energy than most human players that you end up pugging with. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:33, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Actually, Heroes don't seem to calculate the Divine Favor bonus before Healing, and it may be the same for HB and UA. Mesmer skills are great for Hero Casters for energy management because they actually aren't very conservative healers (and I don't think the recent update changed how they calculate their heals). We've got Build:Mo/Me_Blessed_Light_Monk, Build:Mo/Me_Boonprot_Hero, Build:Mo/Me_Glimmer_Hero, Build:Mo/Me_Glimmer_of_Light_Healer, Build:Mo/Me_PvE_Restore_Condition_Monk and Build:Mo/Me_SoR_Protector for Monk builds that use interrupts, and then there are a bunch of other non-Monk builds. That's a third of our Hero Monk builds that have interrupts because they can. Not being restricted to using GoLE and Heal Party can change more than you think, tbh. Also, the halved casting time from Healer's Boon has little relevance seeing as the Unyielding Aura's main bar only had one spell (Dwayna's Kiss) that actually benefited from it because HB only affects Healing Prayers. ــмıкεнaшк 16:00, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Heroes run HB Heal Party with interrupts fine, so you aren't "locked" into /E unless you are a player. It's like Blight and SoD and shit, GoLE on players, Pdrain on heroes. - Misery Is Grumpy Miserysig3.png 16:06, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Those aren't HB builds. And each of those have their own reason to exist. "My build must be vetted because X build was vetted" hasn't worked well either. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 16:10, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
And no one "calculates healing bonuses". Redbarring in PvE consists of clicking on the party member with the shortest red bar and pressing whatever heal is recharged. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 16:13, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
You would have to disable Heal Party and micro it, whereas heroes will use Divine Healing/Heaven's Delight on their own without killing their energy. Using Heal Party once every 15-ish seconds will cost your heroes all of the energy they gained from interrupts, so you'd be better off not running Heal Party on a Mo/Me HB Hero bar, but Unyielding Aura can still heal its party every 8 seconds for 5 energy each use. UA offers more conservative use of healing when facing more damage to your party. Healer's Boon and Unyielding Aura are very similar Elites, but they offer different benefits, which imo, warrants having a UA page, especially when it can work better than HB in most scenarios. ــмıкεнaшк 16:16, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Are you saying that it takes brains to swap out a GoLE and put interrupts? And not like it matters, since HB requires little to no energy management to use properly anyways. And microing helps, yeah. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 16:18, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

UA requires less energy management if you were actually going to use Heal Party every now and then on your HB Monk, and if you don't have to, your energy should be fine, anyway. Heroes aren't very good when compared to a decent player Monk unless they have interrupts and if you were going to micro Heal Party on their bars, you might as well drop it for Divine Healing or Heaven's Delight, which don't benefit from HB, but UA. ــмıкεнaшк 16:26, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

In which case you'd run the existing UA bar. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 18:42, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Who needs Prot when you've got Imbagons? That UA Healer is something I would run with my Imbagon, if I hadn't used heroes for domages. ــмıкεнaшк 18:50, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Then you wouldn't run anything over WoH anyways. If you have an Imbagon, it doesn't matter what bar you run. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 18:51, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
WoH bars don't usually party heal (party healing is still good because 100+ armor on everyone can make monsters scatter and switch targets more often), every other heal is weaker (because no HB or UA bonus), and you usually run a prot hybrid on WoH bars, which is redundant with Imbagons. Waiting until an ally hits 50% health is perfectly reasonable if you've got an Imbagon to regulate the damage that gets through, but just about everything else on that bar is wasted or worse in comparison. HB and UA also make Patient Spirit+Dwayna's Kiss into WoH calibre heals.
If the build isn't restored, would it be okay if I were to add a variant (probably with attributes and equipment, but I'll skip usage) on the surviving UA build? I still find a UA Healer to be significantly different than HB and a prot UA, but it deserves more than a subtle mention on the HB build, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 00:14, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
It's the same as the prot bar. Except you spec into heal. Which is pointless when you can take Healer's Boon. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 10:08, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
But what I'm trying to say is that Unyielding Aura is actually a lot better for Heroes, and half of the time, better for players. Divine Spirit Healing and Heaven's Delight let you party heal without worrying too much about your energy. ــмıкεнaшк 10:42, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Divine Spirit is bad. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 10:43, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
I meant Divine Healing. >.> My point still stand. XD ــмıкεнaшк 11:03, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
You're ahead of yourself. It needs legs first. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 11:05, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Wow. lol Good job defending your point. >.> Unyielding Aura is good enough, even more so, to replace Healer's Boon in common PvE. That's why it deserves its own Healing Prayers build page. ــмıкεнaшк 11:16, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
But that's wrong. If you want Healer's Boon, you'd end up taking... erm... Healer's Boon. Its Divine Favor spec means you can use it for Prot. Since you're maintaining it, it costs you more energy than it should (plus on a heal bar, you tend to have a higher heal spec anyways). — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 11:21, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

You don't actually need very high Divine Favor, but switching to a +1+3 Divine Favor Headpiece when you cast UA helps a lot, though. That 1 pip of energy doesn't mean anything when you can use Divine Healing/Heaven's Delight freely. If you don't have to use party heals, you won't have to heal all that much anyway because you're team isn't under pressure, and if you're team isn't under pressure, you save energy. Using Heal Party twice+GoLE on GoLE's recharge means you're losing 1.5 pips of energy (0.5 energy per second), anyway, and if you actually want to party heal for as much as UA+Divine Healing+Heaven's Delight, you'll have to use Heal Party without GoLE, which will kill your energy faster than that 1 pip upkeep. UA is better under pressure because it can party heal more often without killing your energy, and when not under pressure, it doesn't make a difference because you're barely healing, anyway. ــмıкεнaшк 11:50, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

And using Heal Party without GoLE is energy suicide. ــмıкεнaшк 11:52, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Except none of that makes sense, according to what's right there already; UA requires you to maintain to heal, HB doesn't, and it gives you FC. And lol, Headpiece swapping. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 12:21, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
The 50% would only affect one skill in the UA build (Dwayna's Kiss). What I'm saying is, that Heal Party+GoLE on a HB is inefficient and expensive compared to Divine Healing+Heaven's Delight on a UA. If you aren't party-healing, you'll have loads of energy left (because you barely need to heal), and if you are party healing, UA will have better energy management, regardless of that 1 pip. There's also that extra skill slot, and awesomesauce resurrections (that can apparently allow you to make your Heroes run you =/) ــмıкεнaшк 12:31, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
What are you arguing then? Divine Healing and Heaven's Delight are already on that UA build. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 12:33, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Because Imbagons make Protection Prayers redundant, and Healing with a little Prot>Full Prot in PvE. The majority of the PvE Team builds use Healing Prayers (and maybe a little Prot, but only a skill or two). Ursanway, as an example, used an HB and LoD with little to no prot. ــмıкεнaшк 13:00, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
That's a Healing with prot build. You still haven't made a sensible point yet. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 13:06, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Two party heals every 15 seconds is nice, but more healing is better than the extra Prot. The UA Healing and UA Prot builds are also different in that one is prot and the other is healing. =O ــмıкεнaшк 13:17, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Logically, if you want a healing UA build, you'd be running HB. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 13:40, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

The walls of text explain that UA>HB because UA heals more efficiently, making the upkeep irrelevant. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 13:55, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

The walls of text are wrong, because HB is more efficient than UA when not applied by dumb theorycrafting. Upkeep is always relevant. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 13:57, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
wow are you still arguing this? HB>UA. --Tab MooUser:Ibreaktoilets 13:58, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
I'm still arguing, at least. Heal Party+GoLE is bad, which is why UA is more efficient, it can use two 5 energy party heals every 15 seconds instead of a double 15 energy party heal every 30. Using HP+GoLE on GoLE costs over a pip of energy, which is why that 1 pip from UA doesn't matter in comparison. ــмıкεнaшк 14:01, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Caster Heroes without energy management are also pretty bad, so having a Mesmer secondary AND party heals helps a lot, because using Heal Party twice in 30 seconds costs them 3 pips of energy. ــмıкεнaшк 14:10, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
At least restore the build so we can see what the rest of community thinks. I'll probably have to explain this to most of them, too, but I don't have a problem with that; I've got lots of free time on my hands this summer. XD If it still gets trashed by the community, I won't bring it up again, but I'll be smiling whenever I or someone else uses it, because I know my arguments are right. =P ــмıкεнaшк 14:19, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
It was already unfavored once. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 14:26, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
That's because having Heal Party+GoLE made it inferior to an HB, but I replaced those with Divine Healing+Heaven's Delight, which actually made the build better than HB, imo. Those two skills made all of the difference. ــмıкεнaшк 14:33, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
It's already on the existing build. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 14:34, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

They're different builds (one focuses on Healing, the other on Prot), and the UA Healer is more hero friendly (Heroes are even worse at Prot than they are at Healing lol). ــмıкεнaшк 14:37, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

They're not different. You've made it pretty clear already. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 14:38, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
They'll have 3 skills in common on the main bar, one of which is a resurrect. XD If they were similar enough, I would have added to that page, but the differences aren't minor. ــмıкεнaшк 14:47, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
They are minor enough. Also you have a reason to run one, and no reason to run the other. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 14:55, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Except I wouldn't run the Prot bar because I usually PvE as an Imbagon, and heroes cast Protective Spirit on Orders and BiPs (unless they updated it). ــмıкεнaшк 15:01, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
That's fine, that's your personal choice. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 17:25, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Improper vote

Could you please remove Alleskapot's vote on Build:Team - Post-nerf Ursanway? It contributes nothing and is generally just flaming. Crimson 14:40, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Flaming? That's quite broadly taken then. He should change his reason, and maybe Universatility (or Universality? Idk.), tho. Univ cause Ursan happens to work everywhere (bar PvP). --Srs Bean Mafia. Srs Beans R Srs 15:05, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
I guess flaming might not be quite the right word for it. Wasn't quite sure what to call it. Oh well, it can be either removed or edited if there's actually a factual basis for the revision, I suppose. In any case, I just found the right place to put the comment about the vote, so it's a moot point either way. Crimson 15:38, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Learn to use the Admin noticeboard. –Ichigo724Ichigo-signature.jpg 15:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

at 14:49. --Srs Bean Mafia. Srs Beans R Srs 16:44, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
Then why the hell did he bother putting it here in the first place? –Ichigo724Ichigo-signature.jpg 19:05, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
[2] <- Probably. Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube.jpg 13:10, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
everyone QQs at Rapta about stuff. PvX tradition. --Tab MooUser:Ibreaktoilets 13:11, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Rapta come AB with me. Raskagain.jpg Rask Attack! 16:35, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Deletion of Mo/any Basic Support Smiter

Ok, I'm a bit pissed here, I've created this page, and suddenly without a warning it was deleted. Only comment was "UNNEEDED". Sorry, but is this necessary? Many peaple encouraged me to finish the page and put it into vetting (In fact I just slapped the Untested-Testing tag on it). Then it was deleted for no real reason. Sorry, but THIS really suckz. Masta Lani 13:42, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

It's been moved to User:Masta Lani/Mo/any Basic Support Smiter. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 14:16, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
At least something. Some comment about your "Unneeded" note would be appreciated. How did you come to this conclusion, when so many ppl asked for such a page? A lot crappier things made it into testing. Masta Lani 14:28, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
We have a billion Smiters, and Smiters aren't even needed anymore since the removal of VoD (unless you're counting fucking retarted 4 Monk Smite GvG teams, but that's stupid). Don't get attatched to builds; odds are they're gonna be deleted. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 14:30, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
I'm not attached to this build. I'm just frustrated about how this was handled. While I couldn't play GW for a week now because I'm away on a job I've taken a peek into obs mode. I've found one GvG which didn't have at least one smiter. Smiter's boon is a very versatile build. While it was extremly strong in the "lets wait for VoD"-Game it still is very strong as it allows a lot of quick tactic changes, which is a clear win in GvG. Masta Lani 15:07, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
It was handled like all dupes are handled; deleted. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:44, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
I still don't see it as a dupe, but as an attempt to AVOID dupes. But PvX was always split into those wanting similar builds to be consolidated into one and those who don't. There is no point in arguing anymore you have your point of view i've mine. You're the admin, I'm not. ;) Still, some kind of early warning would have been appreciated and my have deescalated the whole situation. Especially as the page was rather big and already had some discussion going on. Masta Lani 15:56, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Good, you've read the discussion. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:59, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Read the note I posted on your talk page. Oh, and lol @ that "smiters aren't even needed anymore" statement. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 14:33, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

My Admin Noticeboard Concern

I went back to check and saw it was deleted. I went back through the history and saw you deleted with the comment, "Not a talk page". I wasn't asking for a discussion, but to bring this up to the admins and let them take action. Before I take any action, did you move it anywhere or did you just delete it? ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 14:35, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Those kind of things shouldn't be on the Admin noticeboard in general. And those things beg for discussions, so you're better off bringing it to the Community Portal talk page or something. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 14:37, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Roger that. Thanks for the direction. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 14:42, 13 August 2008 (EDT)


picnic pioneers if you need a guild. we don't GvG much (we actually have to lower our rank, because it bothers me to not be on ladder at all), but we are strong in the areas of PvE/AB and some other strong shit. pretty chill most of the time; we win most things if we bother playing. so far we have 2 members that have not played in weeks and 3 possibles. sounds promising, doesn't it? --Readem 21:43, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

o, and we also have one smurf account in PP. I will kick him as soon as I log (and I have been in the guild for about a week obaby) --Readem 21:45, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
Sounds good. It'll give me a chance to test out this new laptop. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 21:47, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

In re Community Portal

Do you know who this is? Cedave bad.png ツ terribad mcfail (contributionsbuildpage) 22:20, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

? What are you talking about? — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 22:46, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
And why is your sig retarded? — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 22:46, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
... never mind. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 22:49, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
He's trying to make a point about people with shitty sigs. PRetty phail attempt imho EC for the fucking win--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 22:50, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
(Double EC'd ftw) Community Portal. Shadowcrest fueling drama Auron started. Buckets of fun. My sig'll be back to normal once I can be bothered to change it. Or if one of you admin types drops a PW:SIGN on my talk page. Cedave bad.png ツ terribad mcfail (contributionsbuildpage) 22:51, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
Oh... ok, then. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 22:53, 22 August 2008 (EDT)



Way to revert my edits. Jackass. <3 Cedave bad.png ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 23:05, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
Protip: Stop this crap. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹPanic srsbsns.gif 23:06, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
Protip: ^QQ less. Misfatemudkip.jpgMisfate /wave 01:02, 23 August 2008 (EDT)


Please log in every once in a while and post when you're able to play on the PP forums. kthnx. Miss you, Raptykins. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake.gif 21:41, 18 September 2008 (EDT)


I live about 8 hours away from you. A couple other users here live in the same city/region as me, too. XD ــмıкεнaшк 15:55, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

So? Guild of Deals stalks me. He lives like, a cumshot away from me.-çɼoʂʂƴƿʃooƿʂ ɱçƒıɼeƿʃɑçkɘʃʂCrossfirexiv grinchsig.gif 20:43, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

ehhem scuse meh

you deleted my rate on..Build:A/any Black WotA.. cuz i said it was "good" and voted great, when a user, Froggerton, voted 5 5 and wrote good also. UNɖɩđđɭɘş —ɱƈŖęąḻḻƴƿʃooƿʂ Unreal is hawt like a pepper.jpg 20:08, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Froggerton's vote was made two days after yours. Also, that build definitely isn't great material, tbh. WotA should only be used with Conjures (we've got a couple builds like that, one of which I submitted), or else you find an IAS from a secondary to use, and a better Elite. ــмıкεнaшк 20:14, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Blizzard is Leet

Blizzard is leet.jpg

Discuss. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 19:16, 22 November 2008 (EST)

No it's not. 1337.88 =/= 1337.00 ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹPanic srsbsns.gif 19:20, 22 November 2008 (EST)


That wasn't a spam vote... --GoD Hammer and Sickle.jpg Guild of Deals 07:15, 4 December 2008 (EST)

It's close enough. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 16:50, 5 December 2008 (EST)


u deleted alotta builds that has an expired grace period Muffin.jpgPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 19:08, 16 December 2008 (EST)

lol i was just clicking recent changes over and over and seeing deletions pile up Muffin.jpgPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 19:14, 16 December 2008 (EST)

my account name

how can i change it form xxunrealxx1 to jsut Unreal. I tohught this was a sight were all acc names needed numbers and stuff like youtubelol. Can i change it?Unɖɩđđɭɘş —ɱƈŖęąḻḻƴƿʃooƿʂ UNREALs heart .gif touch my red link! 21:14, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Simply make an account called "Unreal" if it is available. Otherwise, you're stuck with an imitation of that name. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 21:15, 26 December 2008 (EST)

luckily there was no user with the name Unreal so i created the page User:Unreal and redirected it to mine, is that ok?*Un*ɖɩđđɭɘş —ɱƈ^Ŗęąḻ^ḻƴƿʃooƿʂ UNREALs heart .gif touch my red link! 21:38, 26 December 2008 (EST)

You can just contribute using that user account and I can simply block the other one. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 21:40, 26 December 2008 (EST)

PvE Glass Arrows

Thanks for cleaning up the build page for me. Deansig.jpg Dean(contribs) 22:28, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Are you bored?

Cuz this edit was random [3]. Not that I'm mad or care or anything....just kinda weird. Karate Jesus Elfy.JPG 18:31, 28 December 2008 (EST)

And sorry about the crap with Ulterion last night and whoever his friend is today. I'm done with it and didn't mean for it to be a big deal. I was pretty fucked up earlier (lots 'o scotch last night at a xmas party) and didn't realize how annoying I was being. Karate Jesus Elfy.JPG 18:34, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Technically, it's not tagged for PvE.

Either I'm misunderstanding you again, or you fail to see UW is the first map of HA as well. Brandnew. 19:31, 2 January 2009 (EST)

You didn't get the joke. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 19:32, 2 January 2009 (EST)
I did, but I thought it was rather ironic you made that joke after accusing me of: "Pointless trolling." and "Fail joking." (I'm going to stop being a bitch now.) Brandnew. 19:36, 2 January 2009 (EST)
Well, the only thing I'll say on that matter is: keep it to one account and all will be fine. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 19:38, 2 January 2009 (EST)

I made you a sig

PRESENTING Rapta Icon1.gif TheOneAndOnlyRapta Rapta Icon1.gif (This is my talk page, use it to communicate with me.|Every contribution I've made to the wiki)

Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M.png 18:06, 7 January 2009 (EST)

use it. it's good. KJ sig 2.png 18:06, 7 January 2009 (EST)
Please indent properly. Thanks. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 22:23, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Mo/Me Inspiration Healer (talk · rate)

Took out Signet and Monk Hero's like to spam WoH on low damaged targets getting throught there energy pool fast and not getting the secondary WoH effect. Fox007 User:Fox007 10:57, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Riddle's are giving me headache but prots keep me up. Fox007 User:Fox007 15:30, 6 February 2009 (EST)

Dear Rapta

I miss you.

—ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake.gif 16:20, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Dear Grinch.
Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 22:44, 24 January 2009 (EST)

Your account

Hi Rapta. Please can you let me know if you are also the owner of the "Rapta" account that was on Wikia before today? Thanks. Angela (talk) 01:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 03:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Build:E/Me Ether Crier

Any chance that my vote can be redone or I can get a copy of it? I cba to go through the logic again tbh. LifeWikiLOD7.gif 02:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


What U GOT??? 05:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Build:Mo/any Boon-Prot

Votes are 5,5,5,5,5,1,0,5 so it seems a little unbalanced, d'ya think you could double-check the validity of some votes :) Kracatoan 15:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)