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1 is not nice :< Terran 19:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

(EC)it wasn't intentional, i did it and it was still blank, and i clicked save and it saved over your version >.> (i was fixing it then but you ECed me =p)-- ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
i forgive u, this time Terran 19:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

clean talks pages are teh sex --AngelusEverton.png 19:50, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

btw, I could actually see you being a decent Bcrat. I've never seen anything that would tell me otherwise, but maybe you just wouldn't want to do it in it's current role. KJ 19:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. The AN has been neglected for a while. Btw, are we actually trying to get a way to download a pack of the Great builds for a certain section or profession? I think that's a great idea (I saw it suggested somewhere). KJ 20:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I've been meaning to do it for a while anyway. I belive it's something we've wanted to do for a while, it's just a case of deciding what we want to offer, and where to host it (it would likely be a zip/rar file, which as far as i'm aware we can't really host on a wiki (that i know of) >.>) on a side note you should just sign as an IP ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 20:32, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, I love the idea. And why shouldn't I sign my name? Worried Auron will perma me/ban this IP too? 20:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Auron didn't. Misery Did. --SigKarasu.jpg Karasu (talk) 22:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Same exact thing happened to me :/--Relyk 22:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


I like what you did except for the fact you protected the page without the WELL tag on it. This means they won't care to talk about it and nothing will get done. If that is the way it should be done then so be it. We will have duplicate builds for every perma and 600 and 55 for every boss. I am fine with that as long as everyone else is.Xtreme Hunter.png 11:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I re-added the WELL tag. It should at least mean hat some discussion goes on. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 12:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Ty /bowXtreme Hunter.png 12:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Let me know...

If I can help with your to-do list. KJ badge sig.png 20:21, 28 May 2009

Thanks =p. Anything under "wiki" can be done by anyone really, just do what you fancy, =). ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 22:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I can make the .zips for all the catagories if you want......Just tell me how to organize it. so far thinking get em all in basic sets as shown on mainpage, then I can working on making things like all great Rit builds pve, all great builds pvp etc etc. My only worries are that the download build button dosn't always save em right, and the builds might be badly named as downloaded. Bad soles 02:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

button is useless, you need to copypasta from the box.--|Hipowi sig.jpg Hipowi pew pew pew 02:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Damn, definately doing this on desktop then, too lazy to do it otherwise. Bad soles 02:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. If you let me know roughly how big a single zip's going to be, I can look at where it's possiable to host it. (probably rapidshare and megaupload) ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 12:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

You severely over estimate how big these are going to be, all of the pve general builds zip up to 28 KB. I am fairly certain there are no hosting sites that have a limit anywhere in KB..... so no problems there ;) Probably will get farming and whatever the next pve category is done sometime today. Bad soles 13:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Editing tools

Are the buttons above the editing box readily accessible for you to edit? becouse the internal link one adds [[ ]], when all you need is [ ]--|Hipowi sig.jpg Hipowi pew pew pew 00:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

that's right. you only need [[ ]] for an internal link. [ ] is an external link ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 11:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Main Page oh i get it. I always have used internal links by pasting entire address in, thanks.--|Hipowi sig.jpg Hipowi pew pew pew 19:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


is uncool. :( Not really seeing how it's a fake system message. It's more like my message to PvX users <3 --Slurry. 14:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Roj VS Farm changes

Stop undoing the changes. When your edit was undone you should not have reverted it again, instead you should tkae it up in a talk thread. High energy sets are only to be used when the BiP is DEAD. You should be using a weapon and shield with elemental/earth armor mods. I don't care what you frequently run into and this is not a build made for a W/N primary. Awaken the Blood is a useless skill, furthermore the enchantment lasts too long and if you happen to be at 50% DP it will make youa useless BiP for over 30 seconds. If you have any further comments, leave them here. Do NOT undo the changes or the admins will be the next ones to hear about it. Gesun Dheit 11:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's the thing, he is an admin... Frostysig9000.jpgFrostytheAdmin 12:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
LOLXtreme Hunter.png 12:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Why are high energy sets to be used only when the BiP is dead? you may as well use high energy sets when the BiP is alive so you can spam skills to your hearts content (the RoJ bars are quite energy intensive even with a BiP). Armor mods are generally pointless, if your monk's doing a good job, there's little need for one, although truthfully you can take a wand with "seize the day" and a shield with what ever mods you chose (you prefer elemental/earth armour mods). A fail to see what primary profession the BiP has to do with this argument, you can't BiP yourself :/. BiP isn't main-bared, that's the key point here, it's a variant, it says you can take it over mind bender (which would make more sense, as AtB would be more useful then mind bender with most skills being quick cast times anyway). if your at 50% DP you should be perfectly fine, your a 1hp BiP, it's only when you hit about 12% you have more than 1hp. I could probably write a lot more if i seriously wanted to, but I believe that covers the main points you've brought here... ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 12:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Here is a simple question: Have you actually seen what happens when the RoJs don't have armor mods and get plastered by 2 or 3 warders? Have you tried to RoJ? If you have, you would know that even spamming skills more energy intensive than the bars posted have no problems managing energy with a shield/weapon set. BiP provides enough energy for you to spam your skills. Have you actually setup a spreadsheet to do the mathematics? Have you actually tried any of this or is this just your assumption? Mindbender or a run stance is required to run away from the wall, sometimes preventing death but above all preventing the enemies from selecting you as a target (in which case Thommis or a Demo runs away). 50% DP + 1 enchant + symbiosis = 6 health. Dude, have you tried and tested any of this stuff? Because you have been completely wrong on every single point you've made thus far (including you original edit about some HH W/Mo? wtf does W/Mo have to do with this build?). Mindbender not only allows you to run away from the wall but decreases cast on hex/enchant removal which have 1-2 second cast times. It helps when spamming BiP because you don't have alot of time to spare when BiPing 6 party members (3/4 second aftercast, remember?). Do more research and testing. Gesun Dheit 15:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
yes I have seen what happens, like i said, if you have a competent monk, not much happens. I have RoJ, and i run a high energy set, and everything just fine, I don't die, i don't come close. i Don't need to do the mathematics, i understand the point that +1 regen is going to make very little difference, to the majority, but the point is it can make a difference. You don't need a run stance, BiP is the build I most often play, I've never been targeted or hit when BiPing the perma, the BiP's i've played with never have a run stance either, it's fairly pointless. Symbiosis can be dealt with Gazer of fury (which is always a good idea to have if you're running FS in case a key member does happen to die, and they need rezzing ASAP). I'm not saying I'd take AtB, but if I'd had to chose between Mindbeder and AtB, I'd take AtB, I'd get more use out of it. Hell I take Masochism as my only enchantment because I can take some prots and take some pressure of the monks. If you'd read my point of the HH w/mo you'd have seen I put </joke> at the end. That was me indicating the statement about the HH w/mo was a joke...As for MB decreasing the cast time, like i said, there's very little need for that function, most of your skills are 1 sec cast, you're hardly going to notice the whole .5s difference :/. It's easy to maintain BiP on 6 party members without a reduced cast time, and still afford to cast other spells in between. You know what, I really don't care anymore, put what the hell you like :/ ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 15:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Mathematics are important. I've never needed to switch to a high energy set unless the BiP was dead. Symbiosis is not always within range for you to cast Gaze of Fury on. Furthermore, Gaze of Fury is inferior to other ritualist skills and Consume Soul works much better. I have done 3 minute runs no problem as long as the RoJs run the recommended builds and not some signet smiter junk. Different permas do things differently and there is always a chance of you being targetted, in which case the mob runs to the wall instead of piling up neatly around the perma. This is very important for a fast run. Masochism is really not required due to the energy you gain from Soul Reaping deaths. It is also another long lasting enchantment which can easily put you out of commission for a 30 second duration if Symbiosis is in effect. +25 armor vs elemental does make a HUGE difference when taking damage from AoE (i've seen MANY people die very quickly due to the lack of such armor). It reduces the damage you take by 30-40% (not quite sure on the exact figure). Actually, faster hex removal does make a difference and the enchant removal skills have cast times of 2 seconds. Sometimes BiP will be stripped by warders, forcing you to recast it. It takes 6 seconds just to BiP 6 party members, leaving you with 6 seconds to do miscellaneous tasks (3.5 seconds to remove 2 hexes and a further 1.75 to cast a ward and 1.75 to cast mindbender or whatever else, that's more than 6 seconds, not accounting for those stripped BiPs). Wisdom ward reduces skill recharge times for the BiP, the Ritalist and the HB while he is casting heal party to stay away from wall for perfect agro). The Ritualist does healing support for the HB while the BiP removes hexes (which is something that was missing from the build). Furthermore, i added the original comment about +7 BiP and AtB so without my input that would not even have been there to begin with. The problems I see most often are A. the team moves too soon or the BiP is not out of range fast enough, breaking agro on the perma and B. team dying from AoE. Problem B is easily solved by using armor sets and giving the Rit some heals (spirit light and spirit transfer work alot better than rejuvenation, etc since spirits only have sub 300 health, more if you invest in spawning power. Those heals will heal for 400 health every 4-5 seconds instead of 300 over 30 seconds at a much slower rate). It puzzles me though why you would make an edit as a joke. Gesun Dheit 15:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I didn't make the edit as a joke, I made the summary as a joke. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 15:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Well I'm sorry I misunderstood. That came about though because I am quite frankly sick of all the Mo/N and */N secondary BiPs with all their added enchantments. I have done slaver's runs thousands of times (all 5 bosses) including oldschool obby tank, ursanway, cryway and roj/cry. I was the first person to realize that a perma could complete the run and pull Thommis to the wall, so my knowledge in this area is very extensive. Sorry if I came across as an asshole, but I actually have researched and tested all this stuff. My apologies. Gesun Dheit 17:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I was the first person to find out a perma could pull Thommis to the wall :/. --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 11:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

ZIP/RAR Build Packs

Just so you know, I talked to Wikia's tech team and they wont approve us hosting .zip or .rar files on our site. Danny had a couple of ideas to circumvent that, but they didn't work out.
However, Danny is going to get a storage computer soon, and we may be able to host them on it. If we can't, we can always host them on something like Rapidshare. Let me know what you think. KJ badge sig.png 18:28, 12 June 2009


Jaigoda is interfering with an attempt to clean up the excessively big and rather flooded PvE section. Needs some sort of mediation. afaik, it's been long-known that the PvE section needs to be reduced. ··· Danny Does Drugs 18:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I've not noticed him do anything for a while, so I'll assume he's learned to live with it. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
resolved itself over MSN and a surprising amount of cooperation for PvX users. ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
lol, glad to hear it. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Can't let Frosty have all the fun nice <3Xtreme Hunter.png 11:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
they were just blank builds I came across in Special:Uncategorizedpages so I deleted them while I was there >.> {but you reminded me to put something on my to-do list) ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 11:59, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Glad I can help....sort ofXtreme Hunter.png 12:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


Stop the pain and delete don't know why it was even movedXtreme Hunter.png 18:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't think you can delete it if its in stub. Unless it has been abandoned. Drahgal Meir 19:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
well it with reason Inferior to Category:Other working farming builds, tbh. ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Can't WELL stubs. Drahgal Meir 19:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
You'd be surprised how little anyone cares about policy around here. ;o ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Probably why so many people raged. Drahgal Meir 19:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, most of the good people left because terrible shitters have a habit of thinking they know anything and argue pointless shit. Also, the trolling and the overall levels of faggotry and autism that exist here have led to many people to avoid becoming involved. There's also the fact that we've never had more then 3 active, genuinely non-terrible players on this site. This list really goes on and on, but general disregard for policy is far from a factor. The only people that might deter are people who actually care about wikis as communities. ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm curious as to who the 3 genuinely good people were. Drahgal Meir 19:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I could probably name 3, but not ones that we've had at the same time. I'm definitely not one of them. I do, however, care about the wiki :D KJ badge sig.png 20:07, 17 June 2009
Crow...Auron...Smurf? LifeWikiLOD7.gif 20:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
WE have a whole guide on this so why even bother with moving it to a build.....besides it is made by an IP. IT was moved to build when at least could of moved to someone's user space. So because it wasn't deleted in time before the move was done NOW we have to follow policy and WELL it....god...too much. Kill it now before it gets worse.Xtreme Hunter.png 20:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Crow and Smurf, yes. Auron....meh. I've heard he's decent at PvE, but then again....who isn't? KJ badge sig.png 20:13, 17 June 2009
Auron was a pro bitchrole iirc. Andy/Athrun/Dumbo are good PvE folks. LifeWikiLOD7.gif 20:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
pro bitchrole. i lol'd. ··· Danny Does Drugs 20:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
tbh, I was talking about Crow, Alex, and DE. Reunion is rumored to be good player, but I'm not sure if that's confirmed. Alex is genuine c3 minimum, from what I remember. DE was great player and, iirc, created Contagionway. Crow is strong top 20. Smurf is no where near active, but he is ofc good. ··· Danny Does Drugs 20:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
since I can't confirm DE's goodness, just pretend I said Rhys. Rhys is a very, very good player, especially at monk. Pika isn't bad, but he plays with terrible guilds like VH. ··· Danny Does Drugs 20:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I've played with alex quite a bit (he used to be in my guild for about 1-2 months) and he is pretty good. I really don't know how good the other people are. Drahgal Meir 20:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I'm inclined to leave it. It's in stub so no-body will do anything with it, so it'll get trashed in a few weeks anyway, that way no-one rages. @Drah, while policy says we can't WELL stubs, that's generally because they can change dramaticly, but when you'd making a 55, there's very little that we haven't already got/seen, so exceptions can be made =p. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 10:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I believe I just got whoru'ed by Drah, this is a bad day for me :< --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 20:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I didn't whoru D:, I just haven't played with you so I can't personally say how good you are. Drahgal Meir 21:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

You can delete it now; I wrote it up. :D ــѕт.мıкε 20:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

tbh, you "whoru'd" him. It's ok, we're all fucktards sometimes (I proved I was about 4 minutes ago). KJ badge sig.png 21:12, 23 June 2009

Meta Category

look here! Danny has started this off but I am sure you have to know-how to make it work. Only problem is that the category tag doesn't have any influence over area for which the build is meta. Could there be a way to make this category know what builds have the meta category and then see which areas they are tagged for (then link appropriatly) if it can't be done a simple Meta PvP category and Meta PvE category could be made since they use seperate tags.

Thanks in advance. --Frosty Mc Admin 22:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


Why did you protect my talk? Edru viransu 04:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I protected it from moving (moving only), because shortly after we moved to wikia, there was a mass of vandals using the "move all sub pages" option on the admin and BM's pages though it should be all right to unprotect it now ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 10:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh. Okay. I didn't notice that it was only move-protected. --Edru viransu 00:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

featured builds

do you think a how-to is really gonna help anything? i mean, you can always just look at the diff if you're really confused. also, unless you're putting those images directly on the Featured Builds page, chances are no one's going to pay attention. =/ ··· Danny-sig.png 21:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

there are actually lots of requests on the featured builds talk for featuring a build, i figured this is better than the current usage section, even if it doesn't get much use, we can direct users to it so they can figure out how to do it themselves.
It doesn't matter if no one uses, I've wasted a bit of time is all, if that's the case. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 21:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Here Goes.

  1. Build:W/any Devastating Hammer Warrior
    1. Readem. Does not say why.
    2. Rapta. Does not say why.
    3. Punjab. Does not say why.
    4. BCTurk. Does not say why.
    5. Lost. Does not say why.
    6. Edru. Does not say why.
    7. Zuranthium. Does not say why.
    8. Ownage Much. Does not say why.
    9. Alpinista. D: explained something.
    10. Darius. Does not say why.
    11. Tab. Does not say why.
    12. Napalm. Does not say why.
    13. Snow White Tan. Rapta did not say why.
    14. Klumpeet. nr2 explaining Something.
    15. Brandnew. Does not say why.
    16. Relyk. n3 explaining something.
    17. Guild of Deals. Does not say why.
    18. Underwoord. Does not say why.
    19. Massive. nr4 explaining something.
    20. Jottem. Does not say why.
    21. Sleepy Almond. Does not say why.
    22. Enar. Does not say why.
    23. Breitschleif. Does not say why.
    24. Mister Evis. nr5 explaining something

that's 5 out of 24 votes explainging why they gave that build that rating. They don't even explain it very well. good luck have fun i'll be back tomorrow. Fox007 User:Fox007 21:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

removed the ones I consider not having a reason (personally I'd consider "standard bar" as a reason as it means it's the standard bar to take (i.e. it's great)). ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 22:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Don't remove votes that don't need explaining, it's a meta bar and doesn't need any explanations for why it's good. Stop being a stupid cunt, thanks. --Crow le cutie 23:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
And that my sir is exactly my point. Fox007 User:Fox007 08:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Then say it's meta for all I care, that's a valid reason as far as I'm concerned, but "Duvooste Hammar!!!!" is a shit reason. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 11:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Did you read what I said or what? There is no need to give a reason for an obviously meta bar, Don't remove votes that don't need reasoning in the future, it's stupid. --Crow le cutie 15:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Don't you get it? He's angry because PvE is srs bsns. It doesn't have anything to do with the fact that if you obs any gvg match, there's at least an 80% chance that you see this being run. You should've realized by now that most of the people on here spend all day doing SCs and not much else. ··· Danny-sig.png 15:59, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Slow Answer is Slow Did you read what I said or what? There is no need to give a reason for an obviously meta bar. ups why did i start this discussion you already understand my point. Fox007 User:Fox007 21:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


didn't know you guys allowed IP votes here. — Balistic PvX

yes purely because we don't promote on tallies alone, BCrats have the finale say. (for your convenience) ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

But they really, really wanted credit :<

Phenax so mean! I hope you at least chuckled a little. ;o ··· Danny-sig.png 19:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

i did find it amusing =p ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 20:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Team - Shove Spike (talk · rate)

Grasping earth does counter shove spike. If you can't kite then you can't stay alive. Drahgal Meir 21:18, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

with tele and return it isn't. After you get grasping you tele out, DH the warior first then others on recharge, and use dash to keep kiting. Also, hardly anyone bothers bringing grasping anymore except some hexways which you shouldn't have trouble with anyway--Goldenstar 21:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I bring grasping on my war in balanced occasionally. Drahgal Meir 21:39, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Only time i ever see grasping on wars is if you're running hammer. Which no one runs anymore as balanced stance just makes whirling better--Goldenstar 22:27, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Earthshaker and/or Cry of Frustration would counter Shove Spike, too, but that's hardly relevant since no one brings those skills to TA. ··· Danny-sig.png 17:03, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Hide-And-Seek (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)=

his comment was hardly NPA, given the fact that his comment is a clear parody on my personally favored insult. i'd hardly imagine a ban is necessary. ··· Danny-sig.png 17:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

"Anyone who opposes him is a major faggot. Stop crying about childish remarks, the internet is full of them. Everyone on this site is a child anyways, so in essence it really doesn't matter who you have moderating it, as it will just go towards becoming the new asshole of the internet. Brandnew you fucked up the number ordering you autistic nigger faggot."
I'm aware you use the same insults, but I've yet to see a single person really use it more than twice in a single posting. And like my reason said, it wasn't perhaps personal (given his comment was more general than directed at any one person (with the exception of Brandnew)).
It also amuses me that people are saying (you included) Admins need to enforce policy more, but when we do you say the ban was unnecessary =p. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I encourage the enforcement of policies that matter, not policies that no one here has paid attention to since early 2008. =p <3 ··· Danny-sig.png 21:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


You are such a good admin. I wouldve raged and perma'd that idiot by now <3. But seriously, you give him way too much credit. LifeWikiLOD7.gif 19:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

PvX:AGF =p. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
PvX:It's not being done in good faith after the fifth time :p. LifeWikiLOD7.gif 19:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I meant assume that he doesn't know he's not supposed to remove comments or revert over and over, not that he was doing it for a good reason. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

You might also..

Since you're banning puppets, check this guy out. He isn't socking or anything but seems to have 5 accounts. Zyke-Sig.png 20:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Or he could be havoc from the looks of the rtl page. Zyke-Sig.png 20:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
can you link me to the sock accounts? he hasn't used that account in a long time. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 20:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
User:Ttlmetal, User:Ttlmetalrckr, User:Ttlmetalrckr2, User:Ttlmetalrckr3, and User:Ttlmetalrckr4. I probably wouldn't called it socks though.Zyke-Sig.png 20:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
sorted. ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice new sig

Also this. :> ··· Danny-sig.png 21:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Build Packs

How are we doing on them? Are we waiting for Danny to get his comp so he can store them? Or what? KJ badge sig.png 20:06, 16 July 2009

the discussion is currently ongoing (kind of) here. ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


meanie. i still love you, tho. ··· Danny-sig.png 21:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks <3. Auron and Wizzardboy may well disagree with me though =p. ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
meh. i'm not really all that worried about it anyway. if i get it, sweet. if i don't, nothing changes. i figure i win either way. =p ··· Danny-sig.png 21:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

And u deleted my post because? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (contribs) .

You'll have to be more specific, what post? and please sign you're comments with 4 tildes (~'s) ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I posted ele ball build and it was deleted, also, i added who made it and that was removed as well. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thu monks (contribs) .

As I said on your talk page, the build was moved to comply with our naming policy. As for the part about who made it being removed, we don't attribute ownership or creation of builds. ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I see you checked the IP too, I don't know if you can shed any light on that outcome, it only has one edit from "Anon" with the rest from "Cupcake", could it just be some sort of coinsedence, I honestly don't know, Cupcake denies any knowledge of Anon too so... *shrug*. --Frosty Mc Admin 19:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

it's possiable they edited from the same computer (school/work/library etc.)or even through the same proxy (though i'd be inclined to say that there'd be more users editing from that IP address if that were the case). I haven't seen any sock like behaviour so I'd be inclined to say leave it be for now (needs be we can request he avoids voting on the same builds as Anon.). ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
[3] wat? i thought less than 5 contribs couldn't vote. ··· Danny-sig.png 21:48, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
5 contributions? Sucks that users can do this User:English_Warrior click historyXtreme Hunter.png 21:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
That's what CheckUser is for. ;o ··· Danny-sig.png 21:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
IP's can't vote (i hope). you should need 8, though i have noticed this isn't the case since moving to wiki (well i noticed recently when people with 1 edit manage to vote, and my alter ego with no conts here can vote) i've contacted wikia and they said they'll sort it out (they might have, i'll test in a min).
and yeh, if someone does 12345678, we will generally check user them (which i have). ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
yeah, my alter ego can still vote, I'll give em a couple more days before bugging them again. ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Consider bringing up PvP skills, too, while you're at it :p --- Ohaider! -- (contribs) (talk) 13:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
TOR's been taking care of that. We're not the only wiki they have to look after. Afaik, they're trying to come up with a system that would allow us to edit the skill details ourselves. ··· Danny-sig.png 18:30, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
They may just be waiting for the next skill update, but I honestly don't know. --Frosty Mc Admin 18:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Signature templates

I figured we didn't need to continue on Lyssan's page. Out of curiosity, how is transcluding a page heavy server load? All it's doing is pulling the code from that page and maintaining a dynamic link that triggers only on update. ··· Danny-sig.png 18:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

"pulling the code from that page" <----. It means that it has to load that page as well as the page it's currently loading, and process that code, as opposed to just being told "here's some code, process it", and the fact that it's a huge mess of code (I get 7 1/2 lines at 1680 x 1050 res.) means it takes longer. ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
that 7 1/2 lines of code probably goes largely unnoticed by the server, especially with how Wikimedia's caching system works. Judging by the Wikimedia docs, using a substituted page it no more stenuous than using substitued code unless the subst'd page is modified, at which point the current page would need to be re-cached. Wikimedia uses backlinks, meaning the subst'd page notifies all other pages once it's been updated. While I will admit that 7 1/2 lines is rather unnecessary, it could probably easily be reduced to far fewer. I'm willing to bet no one's ever looked at optimizing and reducing the code for it. ··· Danny-sig.png 22:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I've looked at mediawiki and metawikis documentation on transclusion and templates, unfortunately they don't really go into great detail of how transclusion does affect server load. I will talk to Poke later and see what he has to say on the matter. I've had a brief look at the code in the sig, and it can be reduced, but it would still be incredibly long. ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Eh. Either way, it's not like most people have a reason to use templated sigs, and at least Lyssan's sig looked nice and wasn't even moderately disruptive. In the long run, sure, it could cause some server load, but as long as not everyone's running around with one, does it really matter? =/ ··· Danny-sig.png 18:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Allow it once, and you should allow it for everyone else, too.. Meaning Auron enforcing the policy was a waste of time. --- Ohaider! -- (contribs) (talk) 18:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
IAR + admin discretion, tbh. obv phen thought it should be deleted, I'm just making the case. ··· Danny-sig.png 18:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey is it possible to link a file to your talk page in a sig?.--XTREME Hunter.png 14:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Hunter.png. Alternatively, add #REDIRECT [[User_talk:Xtreme1ne]] to the image's page. --- Ohaider! -- (contribs) (talk) 15:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

what Viper said =p ~ PheNaxKian talk 16:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Much better thanks Viper..--XTREME Hunter.png 17:05, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay then you want me to reduce the pic in my sig then?.--XTREME Hunter.png 23:17, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

the easiest thing is to remove the sub tag, otherwise you have to make the image quite small. ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:03, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

User Name Change

I want to change my username. Liger414 is pretty crap and bears no relevance to me or my chars. How would I go about changing my username to Short?----Signature-Liger414.pngThe Liger speak to me 12:33, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

You'd have to create a new account, we don't have any means to rename a user. However if you can convince wikia to install extension and one as well then we can sort something out. ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
So I just need to make a new user and move my pages?----Signature-Liger414.pngThe Liger speak to me 12:43, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
well, make a new user and I'll move your pages later (I'm going for a bit), because I can move all your subpages as well (with just one click) ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:44, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Lol epic, subpages includes main userpage?----Signature-Liger414.pngThe Liger speak to me 12:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
sure =p. ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:46, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Okay, cool. I'll stop bothering you now and make my user.----Signature-Liger414.pngThe Liger speak to me 12:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


Still don't seem to be loading properly (white page and "done"). Seemed to happen around this time yesterday for me too. Just thought you should know. Spaggage talk 20:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I am positive that the server is having has never been this slow before. Seems like it is better now--XTREME Hunter.png 20:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not having any problems. Drahgal Meir 20:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I think it was happening on a few Wikia sites since whenever I tried one it just did what you said and instead of PvX logo coming up it came up with the Wikia logo. --Crow 21:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I get the Wikia logo instead of the PvX one too. I've only been having problems with PvX though (mind you, the only other wikia I use is guildwiki) Spaggage talk 21:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I've only gotten about one white "done" page in the past week or so. Although yesterday about this time, i was having trouble loading any PvX page, but that was true for GWiki (the whole one or two pages I tried) as well, so I'm inclined to say it's a wikia/server issue. It's possiable they're upgrading some of the software or something. I'd just say put up with it for a bit, there's not much any of us can do about it. ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe the servers hosting PvX and GWiki are afflicted with a debilitating cancer. ··· Danny-sig.png 21:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Yah the name is Hunter.png 23:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Ups, Xtreme is talking shit again :/ KJ badge sig.png 00:52, 29 July 2009
I was going to say Exo/Luke but that is tooo easy.--XTREME Hunter.png 10:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Meh, every once in a while I think you could be a decent guy, but then I'm reminded why most people here would put you into a category with Luke. KJ badge sig.png 16:16, 29 July 2009
Way to take a joke....different when it is on the other foot. LOL no harm intended.--XTREME Hunter.png 16:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


  1. (Deletion log); 09:13 . . Phenaxkian (Talk | contribs) restored "User:Pika Fan" (252 revisions restored: restoring all but last revision)

necessary? I'm curious - why not just revert? It's not like it doesn't take one click for you :p -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 06:55, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

they do that sort of thing on GWW when people put sensitive information on the 'ask a question page', don't they. for example, credit card numbers or personal addresses. — μαφλεσ 07:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
well the deleted revision was close to 2 million characters. I was having trouble getting the edit page to load (the window would crash). I probably could have undone it, but I figured it would take a long time to load (again, given the 2 million characters.) So deletion seemed like the easiest way. ~ PheNaxKian talk 10:01, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Diffs are more fun than edit windows if you want to crash your browser. Personal favorite. Try scrolling once it's loaded. --- VipermagiSig.JPG -- (contribs) (talk) 15:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Don't forget to subst this once or twice. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 16:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Ah. Watchlist didn't say there were 2m characters, so I just assumed it was the width of a few pages. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 14:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
C/P "POS" to 2 million characters is fun. My firefox didn't crash loading that; phen's computer just fails. :(Lightningbolt sig.jpguɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 14:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I could load the page fine. I couldn't edit it though (well maybe if I left it long enough). 2 million characters is overkill anyway you look at it. ~ PheNaxKian talk 15:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I edited it to remove a spacing at the start, so it's really your computer. And POS is never overkill. POS is just POS. Lightningbolt sig.jpguɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 15:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


Oh and archive PvXwiki:Requests for Build Master Status/TahiriVeila--X 19:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't archive it? >.>, it's not resolved yet (talk to Auron and Wizardboy for that). As for reconsidering my vote, all the required parties know why I voted the way I did. ~ PheNaxKian talk 19:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell me why?--X 20:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

# (Move log); 18:15 . . Phenaxkian (Talk | contribs) moved Talk:R/any Dire Pet Training to Build talk:R/any Dire Pet Training [redirect suppressed]

hao 2? Brandnew 18:25, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

become an admin =p (or contact wikia and ask them to make "suppressredirect" avilable to everyone) ~ PheNaxKian talk 18:27, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Ups, I failed that move :> didn't see that it wasn't in build namespace. ---Chaos- 18:31, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Then becoming an admin it is. probably less hassle then asking wikia to make suppressredirect available to me! :> Brandnew 21:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

sup phil

? Goodnight LA mcsig.png 20:36, 7 September 2009

The sky mostly (at least it was last I checked >.>). ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:43, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Why are you outside on the computer at this time of night?--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig.jpg $ɧor₮ talk 20:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
I'm not. There's a window next to me. ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
Next to, not above ;O--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig.jpg $ɧor₮ talk 20:47, September 7, 2009 (UTC)


^---Chaos- 20:46, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe

You let that idiot to carry on doing what he's doing. Nevermind, didn't see the notice. --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 22:42, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

i can't believe you have a problem clicking one link to get back to your regular interface. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 22:43, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
No personal attacks please. Lightningbolt sig.jpguɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 22:44, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Rules are just guidelines anyway, right? --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 22:45, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
OH THE IRONY AND THE STUPIDITY! IT IS KILLING ME! [4] Lightningbolt sig.jpguɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 22:46, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
I asked admins to sort out the crap about his page. Problem? --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 22:52, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
(EC)I think it's more hypocritical than ironic or stupid. Besides, I consider the issue(s) resolved now in any case. ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:57, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


Ohshit that was a hardcore vandal...feel bad you're getting shit from them =[ BLUE LAZERSEat ItUser-Baby Blue Lazer sig pic.jpg 23:56, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

This is nothing --Frosty Mc Admin 23:59, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Being new is fun...BLUE LAZERSEat ItUser-Baby Blue Lazer sig pic.jpg 00:03, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

frosty, just delete the picture so they cant keep using it? --AngelusEvertonangelus.gif 00:04, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

And maybe also temporarily protect his userpage from unregistered users, if possible ofcourse. --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 00:07, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
I am going to protect this User Talk just for good measure. --Frosty Mc Admin 00:09, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
tbh, more pages to be protected -> 1, 2 AthrunAthrun Sig.gifFeya 19:15, September 11, 2009 (UTC)
ah, sorry, I've only just got the internet back so I'm catching up on what's happened. Protected. ~ PheNaxKian talk 19:17, September 11, 2009 (UTC)


I voted for a deletion of that in the first place but got in trouble for it D: but your admin, you can. bwahaha. thx. i wish there was a rule saying i could blank my page if "didly sqwuat" is on it. lol. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig.jpg 22:42, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

which page is this? >.> ~ PheNaxKian talk 10:31, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
Oh. My archive1 thing. i archived it cuz i got in trouble for just deleting it sinc ei didn't think anything important was on it. lol. but, alls well now. so np's. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig.jpg 02:59, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


thank you for editing my build im kinda new to pvx wiki. anyways thank you :p


does that work better? i'm trying to mess with the z-index, but i'm using ie at work and i can't see anything wrong with it to begin with. mebbe i'll try to fix it at home. kthx. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 20:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Still obscures the entire wiki. --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 20:50, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
can you get me a screenshot to reference? I can't imagine that dropping it below -1000 would do any good. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 20:52, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
No screenshot, but only the pvx logo thing, the user page link at the top, and the search box are visible. Life Guardian 20:56, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Danny breaks the wiki.jpg --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 20:58, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Figures Firefox would break it's z-index support in what i'm assuming is 3.5. upsss. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:09, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Question: Who cares? KJ badge sig.png 20:59, 14 September 2009

Every non-shitter person really. --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 21:02, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
if i redirect my sig to my talk, does everyone stop caring? ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
I suppose. Why do you want to keep it that way so much anyway? >_> --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin.jpg 21:07, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
because boring background is boring. also, does what I have now work any better? ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:19, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
^ this, and Danny, why does my msn tell me you can't receive my messages :< 21:00, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
i'm not sure bbz, but it's srsly lame. :< big is talking to me just fine. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
I'm not shadow you fgt. 21:07, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
ups then my msn is borked and i don't know who you are. :< ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:09, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
You not knowing who I am makes me very sad bbz :< 21:15, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
>: unless you make Wild Piplups appear, i do not recognize the ip. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:22, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you figured it out or not based on the Wild Piplups appear comment 21:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
I r unable to msn you as well dannycakes :(--TahiriVeila 21:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
If you did not understand the Wild Piplups Appear comment, then you are probably not the person I thought you were. :< Also, Meebo seems to be bad atm so I'll probably get on my phone. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:31, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Nono, I did understand the Wild Piplup comment bbz, I wasn't sure if, in the context you used it in, you figured out that I do infact make Wild Piplups Appear or not. 21:34, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I feel like I am repeating myself here but, why is everybody caring that they can't look at Danny's userpage? --Frosty Mc Admin 21:35, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

(EC ×2)If you're redirecting your sig to your talk it's an improvement, but at least add a decent sized link at the top of your page to your talk as well. Also everyone's MSN is fucked, you have to close it and start it again to fix it =p. ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:36, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
oh, apparently the aforementioned MSN "fix" is only temporary >.> (sorry) ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:39, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I closed and reopened and still didn't work, i even tried reinstalling, still borked :< 21:40, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

redirected image to talk. i'll work on designing it and adding a talk line later. for temporary purposes, the search box and my "sup" link should be plenty. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

"sup" link? ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:52, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Msn finally works and now you're offline, today is sad :< 21:52, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
ironically, i meant my "ups" link, which is even more ironically buried behind the search box at the current time. i'll fix that in a sec. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 21:58, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

now it's all pretty good. i'll get around to adding a talk link sometime soonish. ··· Dannycbf.PNG 22:09, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

User:Daññy, pt. 2

Is it acceptable now that you can actually click on links to places? ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:10, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

lol. That'll do fine. ~ PheNaxKian talk
<: no more angry phen! ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:13, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Why do I keep autologging out?

^ I can't even stay signed in to sign my comments. Wtf is going on? - Karate Jesus 19:11, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I had some packetlosses, and sometimes when I tried to click "edit" and "save page" it prompted me if I want to save or open the .php file. Wickedness. ---Chaos- 19:14, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
Now I can stay signed in, but it's still acting........weird. KJ badge sig.png 19:16, 17 September 2009
(EC) I was working all right until I tried to reply here where I lost data. see here it's happening to others, there's not been a response yet though =p. ~ PheNaxKian talk 19:22, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


Ben may have bit out of line, but considering the archived discussion (I'm not sure if you've read it), the guy's complete fucking trollbait. He clearly hasn't read a single policy and doesn't understand anything about the wiki, nor has he made any effort to understand it. At best he'll end up like a lot of users no one cares about. At worst, he'll end up like this. My money's on him raging pretty hard.

Anyway, my point is that trollbait will always be trolled. ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:42, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I got that he was bringing it on himself with the way he was acting (trollbait as you put it). I haven't looked that closely into this guy, but Ben was going overboard :/. ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:51, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
<3 ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:00, September 23, 2009 (UTC)


Just so I am clear. If someon is banned then all there edits can be removed on a Wiki? How come we have never done this before when they hide sock puppetry or proxy?--X 12:07, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

It only really applies to perma'd users (because we can extend a ban on anyone who isn't permad). Usually we let the first few edits slide (because it'll be the "QQ I didn't do that this is what happened" kind of thing), but if they continue then all edits they make from that point on should be reverted and any sock/IP being used should be banned. ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:10, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
(EC)All the edits they make while banned iirc, so if you know someone who is banned is editing your page (anonymously) then you are free to remove them, however if the edits are useful just leave them. --Frosty Mc Admin 12:13, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
So admins don't seek edits made by someone who is perma'd and destroy them? Just if they see one they will blow it away at there discretion?--X 12:40, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
no, we just revert any edits (unless they're usefull) made after the block. ~ PheNaxKian talk 13:10, September 25, 2009 (UTC)


Not sure if this is right place but thanks for moving the build i posted, being playing Guild Wars for a long time and have so many builds in team builder just thought id post one.. stupid of me for not considering it and yeah i read the stuff your meant to read on joining i just got the name wrong cause i fail at using wiki :) but thanks for your help :) Dios1234 18:33, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

no problem, it can take a while to get used to editing wikis ;) ~ PheNaxKian talk 18:44, September 25, 2009 (UTC)


Has the stick up your ass always been there, or has it been a slow process? ----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig.PNG 01:29, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

wat? ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:49, September 28, 2009 (UTC)


For all your hard work Phen. First admin i met. Being an admin can go unoticed for random behind the scenes work you do, But just thought i'd give thx for keeping the site in "order" and being nice and understanding to people that have no idea what their doing on wiki at times and putting up with their mistakes and fixing them. lol. Just a random thank you for those who prolly dont recieve it as much as they should for shit they put up with. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig.jpg 05:04, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I love it how you've copypasted that. ---Chaos is gay - 06:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Really, though, even for the scuffles Phen and I have been in, he's a pretty great admin, and he's one hell of a janitor. :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 18:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Atleast he stays neutral :o ---Chaos is gay - 18:50, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Felt like copypasting the response on bigs page to lol. but didn't feel like going back to do that. anyways, even if it was copypasted, so are hallmark cards. lol. And ya, he's pretty neutral. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig.jpg 02:59, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

BuildEditIntro thing

Doesn't seem to work. I stuck some words in it and it doesn't show up when I start a new buildpage.See BuildEditIntro and Build Me/A Test. Zyke-Sig.png 04:30, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure there at least needs to be a Mediawiki: in front of that. I'll look at it tomorrow if I have time at work. ··· Danny Pew Pew 06:06, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
it doesn't work because the rest isn't done, and no, it doesn't need to be in the MW namespace. =p ~ PheNaxKian talk 08:54, October 7, 2009 (UTC)


First I see links that prove of black men being well equipped, then I'm linked to a bloody murder video =/ Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:06, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Also, archive ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:07, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
(EC)it was a murder video? (poke has a script on IRC that gives you the title of any URL you enter and it came back: "Porn site reviews on <censored for the innocent>". the revisions have been deleted anyway =p.
yeh i've been meaning to archive for a while as well, but people keep starting new topics (i like to make sure there's no active topics before i archive =p). ~ PheNaxKian talk 19:10, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
Ninefingers leaves the last active topic on his page and archives the rest, you could do the same. We regular evil-bitch users don't care about others to do it, and clean talk pages trigger the Archived Page Syndrome (I could write a page about this).
Also, no, 'twas just a gross pic of a black teen/man. I was linked to a murder vid on GWW :o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:20, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
ah, you didn't see the second image then (he linked to a site which was what i was talking about). When i archive i move my talk page (so i hvae a clean history as well <3 ) so everything gets archived. ~ PheNaxKian talk 19:40, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
I did see that too, now that you mention it, but I didn't really pay attention to it as it didn't desecrate my eyes the same way. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:44, October 7, 2009 (UTC)


I don't know if you want to get into it, but my ban seems pretty unfair. Obviously the sock was all in good fun, and there was no intention to abuse the second account. You tend to be one of the most level-headed admins, so I was hoping you might be able to revert/shorten the ban. -- 20:03, October 7, 2009 (UTC) (Jai)

Wow who the fuck cares, go get some fresh air for once in your pathetic life, you can live without pvx for 3 days. 20:05, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
d, he can't, also, gtfo. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:07, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
(EC)Jai, I'll warn you here too, if you're going to proxy edits, make sure it's only about discussing the ban, or it'll get extended.
Also, even 1 day bans hurt my OCD addiction much :> I RC even through bans, and if I have to, I proxy anonymous edits. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:07, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
@72.94:inorite. As a side note, I laughed pretty hard. I don't think we need to increase any bans for this evasion, but you have already shown you know how to find and use admin emails, do that in future. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 20:09, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
Stop whining about a 3-day ban. If you're gonna troll, learn to deal with the punishment, especially when it's a particularly bad job of trolling. ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:12, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
d s boring. I lol'd hard <3 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:13, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
Also, I had my ban +3 day'd for proxying constructive edits =/ ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:13, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
(EC)I troll a LOT less than others, lol. Danny, you deserve a ban much more than I do.. -- 20:15, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
But Danny doesn't get banned because everyone likes him and hes not a massive faggot, you are. 20:16, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
(EC) I don't do stupid things like make socks. I just tell people they're bad. My responses to your comments are a perfect example. Also, I get banned pretty regularly - check the log if you don't believe me. ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:18, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
Look if you are not careful you will be Toren's first ban for bypassing ban....Go get it Toren--X 21:44, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Imo, perma Jai. He's annoying anyway and only clogs my watchlist (that is, when I actually come here). Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 21:49, 7 October 2009

Why Perma Jai KJ? What reason that he has done deserves a perma?--X 21:52, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
-.- Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 21:53, 7 October 2009
What the fuck is that? That isn't an answer!!!--X 22:02, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
you are bad. read KJ's original sentence again. though I doubt it will help. — μαφλεσ 23:04, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
If annoyance was a reason to ban then we all would be banned following you...this is falling on deft ears. I was talking to KJ I never asked for you opt--X 23:38, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
The whole "you're not related to this" argument is so invalid on the interwebz. This is Phen's page and we OCD stalk, /wave. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:05, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
Granted--X 10:18, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'll leave the block as it is I think. While the sock may not have been made with he intentions of manipulating the vetting system (the main reason we don't allow socks), the point was you knowingly created a sock, knowing we don't allow them, the intended use doesn't matter. If you want to disscuss futher use the "e-mail this user" on the left. ~ PheNaxKian talk 10:28, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

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