damn, i actually got a first --Angelus 04:20, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

This just in

You're a dumbass. Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 04:30, 20 January 2010

I presume you all haven't even tried the build. Its used in a total different way. Me/E spreads condition and its dmg is less. For the E/Me build your sticking a target and shuting them down through KD. As for the WELL...It's not one...the Ele Stoning spam build is different in the fact that it focuses more on blind. *Melee*

  • My build focuses on casters. The other ele build can't keep the target on the floor because they can stand up and kite away. My build: Stoning (Stall 1 second) Stoning (Stall 1 second) Stoning (1 second) Stoning (stall 1 second) Glowstone, Ebon hawk, Stoning. (shuts down)
  • other ele build: Ebon hawk, stoning, blind, (spreads weakness and blind)
  • other mes build:Ebon Hawk,Stoning, Blind. faster cast. less dmg* (spreads weakness and blind)

My build is used differently/Battles differently. - Somerandomkid.

Links are nice, but since i put a well tag on this build ill assume that's what you're on about.
Ok first off, if you ever want anyone to take you seriously, stop this shit of "try it before you talk about it". Someone can quote Bob Freg. for you. I don't need to try a build to judge it, im a good player who can look at skills and understood how they are played.
Secondly, your build is the exact same as our me/e, with the elite taken out for an optional. I have no idea why you're on like "oh this is completely different usage, its a totally new build, when its an identical build, with two skills taken out for optionals.
Third, yours has absolute shit energy. The point of the build is to abuse low-recharge skills to pump out weakness, knockdowns, and blind. Yours can't do so consistently because in about 30 seconds its going to be on zero blue bar. Lyssa's aura fixes this problem.
Fourth, your build relies on chaining skills to keep someone incapacitated. Whats the number one problem with chaining skills? It makes the bar interrupt-prone. How do you get around this? Fast Casting! The mesmer is at much less risk of a dchop owning its face.
Fifth, why is a build that has blind and weakness supposed to be "caster hate". If you want caster hate, jump on a fucking mesmer or ranger, don't try and knocklock the person when that's completely inferior to simply interrupting them.
Enjoy. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) (UTC). 05:43, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

True, but that build clearly stated it's sole purpose was spreading a (covered) blind. In this it gets outshined by blinding surge, which can still do other shit like deal some damage or be a massive general nigger. Therefor i believe the well tag was justified. Brandnew 09:34, January 30, 2010 (UTC)


msn? you has? - AthrunFeya - 02:15, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

[redacted] The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) (UTC). 02:18, February 1, 2010 (UTC)


Saint so Mother(board)less! Don't forget to download the beta my good friend, lots of love. --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 00:38, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

GO DIE IN A FIRE ur still in team builder.

Just beat yumy running 8v8 build on corrupted

Wot were you saying about being benched, bad, and unable to play 8v8? kpce--TahiriVeila 03:10, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Just establishing the current status quo so you can come up with new random bullshit. The old stuff is kind of obviously wrong now!--TahiriVeila 03:16, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
lool, first off, running Bsurge in 9pm AT is the definition of benched. Sitting on shield set with no one on you, casting attunement with ranger next to you, and sitting on 4040 with a warrior running at you is the definition of bad. Third, you were the one that said vR can't 8v8, i simply agreed. keep this bullshit off my talk page, you horrible horrible player. k, PAL? Gringo 03:19, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
Hey pal, who's playing? Don't see you getting guested anywhere? And QQ about weapon sets, like everyone is perfect on EVERY cast--TahiriVeila 03:24, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
i am playing actually, you just dont know who for. even as i write this i know defending myself to you is stupidity, but i'll humor you. and no, no one is perfection, but swapping sets more then once every 8 minutes isn't very hard, especially when no one is on you and you never ever get off your shield set (mind you, until warriors run at you, then it seems you find the time to switch to your 4040!). come back when you get good, im formally requesting you stop posting on my talk (iirc, im allowed to request that, many people did with Relyk, and you two have a lot in common). cherio PAL. Gringo 03:31, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

youre both bad lol skakid9090 20:30, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


good for the game skills

hey let's discuss it, I agree with your choices except for primal(easymode war imo). I'd also add soa and shock.FMK- 19:41, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

yeah well, or not.FMK- 10:47, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
Diversion/Power Drain :( Brandnew 11:58, February 10, 2010 (UTC)


msn --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 17:41, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

im at a mates, ill try and find it on this pc brb. Gringo 17:42, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
nodice. Gringo 17:44, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Bawww when you loaded up my message would have made you ":>" --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 17:48, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Also http://www.iloveim.com/ go go --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 17:52, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I need a Warrior. Come. Also, need your MSN. Didn't save it. Zuranthium 20:23, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

aidanrogers@gmail.com. still need? Gringo 20:40, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Yes. Where are you. I messaged you on MSN too. Zuranthium 20:51, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


/ave rice. Gringo 23:03, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
omg, real name revealed. Misery 23:04, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
dont worry its in ninja code, undecipherable. Gringo 23:07, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason you never talk to me on msn any more? Did you block me? Misery 23:10, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
D: no captain, my msn is often logged out when i gvg, once i finish ill will promptly come on and entertain you. Gringo 23:14, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
To be honest, I never log in any more ^______________^
Except for right now, so Jake gets to tell me how bad you are, but you don't get to tell me how bad he is. I'll probably sleep before you are done. By the way, I don't play Guild Wars and I don't really want to, but get me guests so I can refuse them please. Misery 23:16, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
guest--X 23:28, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
She'd probably not even answer to that one ^______^ --Chaos? -- 05:50, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
lol didn't think she would--X 11:01, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

LoD mes were pretty bad unless running triple war to begin with, much better off with bsurge or pblock still--TahiriVeila 03:07, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

im sorry what? smiter "pretty bad" with 2 warrior + para? thats the dumbest thing ive heard all day. (sorry to turn your comment into an insult, but it was a dumb thing to say). Gringo 03:08, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

msn + tb --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 22:38, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

let me obs tb, i'll be quiet! --Brandnew 22:40, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
its channel saint. Gringo 22:43, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

omg use msn nob --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 04:17, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

omg give me msn nob Terran 04:22, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

ask someone for it, lots have it

remember you was talking about a glyph sac meteor shower ele at VoD? http://www.gw-memorial.net/nav/b_pase_i.php?id=82 That's the match. --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 14:20, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

jeeeez nearly every skill on there has been nerfed Gringo 16:30, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

rav does 60 damage to all foes, not only to your target, so you will actually hit 3 foes for full spike damage (with a whole fucking lot of luck that is.) --Brandnew 22:25, March 3, 2010 (UTC)


Misery 22:46, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

My name is not Rice. --Chaos? -- 22:51, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Special Olympics are cool. Did your sister ever overcome her trauma? --Chaos? -- 22:48, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

ye cuz we had friends over and went on chat roulette for a bit, and she saw so many penises that you were the least of her worries. Gringo 23:37, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
^_________^ --Chaos? -- 23:54, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

moved from PvXwiki talk:Evaluating Administrators/March2010‎
User-Saint irl.jpg How's the sister, Saint/Gringo? —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake.gif 19:05, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I was considering insulting you, but instead, I have chosen to give words of encouragement. Eat that donut good --Readem 21:53, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
Probably still very screwed up after I spoke on vent with her ;o --Chaos? -- 07:20, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
Readem, that looks more like a pasty to me! Get stuck in Saint! --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 09:13, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
you spoke to the other sister on vent retardo. and it was a meat sub! Gringo 17:59, March 12, 2010 (UTC)
i so knew you have two sisters --Chaos? -- 18:15, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User:Da%C3%B1%C3%B1y/Upsway lol Rawrawr Dinosaur 22:33, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

spike here with renewing surge in 321 :D Gringo 22:55, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Since I turned off tb, Dupsway!

Dismember Body Blow Disrupting Chop Bull's Strike Shock Primal Rage Rush Resurrection Signet
Burning Arrow Savage Shot Distracting Shot Apply Poison Song of Concentration Lightning Reflexes Natural Stride Resurrection Signet
Vicious Attack "Go for the Eyes!" Rend Enchantments Anthem of Flame Defensive Anthem Aggressive Refrain "Make Haste!" Resurrection Signet
Mind Blast Immolate Rodgort's Invocation Grasping Earth Ward Against Foes Aura of Restoration Fire Attunement Flesh of My Flesh
Blinding Surge Shell Shock Chain Lightning Convert Hexes Glyph of Lesser Energy Aura of Restoration Air Attunement Resurrection Signet
Offering of Spirit Channeled Strike Weapon of Warding Resilient Weapon Glyph of Lesser Energy Protective Was Kaolai Life Death Pact Signet
Life Sheath Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional
Healer's Boon Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional Optional

--Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 09:45, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

doesn't look as good without the aura of disenchant. Gringo 16:43, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
lmao. Rawrawr Dinosaur 18:28, April 8, 2010 (UTC)


an rfr, and why are ppl on gww try and use it like a weapon? i never read gww, everyone over there seems hugely butthurt. Gringo 00:35, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

request for reconfirmation. Basicaly users can add their name to the bottom of an admins RfA and if enough people do so (determined by the net result of last RfA and time passed since then) an RfR is started, which just means the admin goes through another RfA (where upon succeeding means they retain their sysop rights, and failing means they lose them). So their means of evaluating admins I guess. ~ PheNaxKian talk 00:38, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Request for Reconfirmation. Basically it's intended to be a new RfA if someone has a complaint with an admin after they've been in their position for a loong period (something like 6+ months i think) but it's really just an excuse to stir up drama.--TahiriVeila 00:40, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
TL;DR, the gww circlejerk's way of pissing off Auron. Life Guardian 00:41, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
not a bad idea, seems a bit flawed in that retarded users votes count for the same amount as smart users votes tho. Gringo 00:43, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
here we find the primary flaw in the electoral process of the United States of America.--TahiriVeila 01:06, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
I'm convinced that in real life politics, 99% of the people just vote on intuition, meaning the best looking candidates win. There's even some researches which indicate this ;o Well, what I can tell about the presidential election, people knew somewhat well what both Obama and McCain were on about. --Chaos? -- 09:38, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

you got a facebook?

^ ··· Danny So Cute 02:40, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

not to get sucked into the time wasting vortex of social media (cuz pvx isnt a timewaste ikno), but i needed an account to view anything on the site so i made one. Gringo 02:49, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
well, that's cute. ··· Danny So Cute 02:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Didn't we try to find his facebook page once danny? Or was that me and alex?--TahiriVeila 03:31, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
Dunno. I've dug up information on pretty much everyone on this wiki at some point or another, so I wouldn't be surprised if I was involved. ··· Danny So Cute 04:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
FYI lies...they are all lies---XTREME 10:04, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
KJ has some pictures of me hanging half naked from a rope :> For commercial use only. --Chaos? -- 19:34, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
Hawt or Not. --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 20:07, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
It's a mixture. It's like Nawt Sure If Want.... Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:17, 16 April 2010
I meant his picture is on Hawt or Not. --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 20:39, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
There's more than one pic ;o --Chaos? -- 15:33, April 17, 2010 (UTC)


I don't care if you talk about botting in that way, it's when people start talking about how they dev. bots, and link to sites to download bots from etc. =/ ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:47, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I linked a site, but I think you have to link off-site to dl any bots. And, as I said, Anet has plans to do something. So, you would probably be shooting yourself in the foot. Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 21:48, 5 May 2010
ah, I didn't check your link, i assumed it was guru. ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:04, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
Nope. But you can't get any bots directly from that site anyway. It's mostly source code, which doesn't help someone who doesn't know what they're doing. Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 22:06, 5 May 2010
^ :< Novii 22:14, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
ANet had plans to do something about Shadow Form for over 2 years. I'll believe it when I see it. (We all know they're not going to re-write their client this late in the game.) ··· Danny So Cute 06:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

regarding "might get bad" - you don't have any idea how bad it might get very, very soon. imagine a world where every time you went to spike, the target was SB'd, and every time a warrior got within melee range of a target and hit frenzy, that target got guardian'd. and where blind lasts 3/4 of a second. ··· Danny So Cute 06:28, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

'might get worse' would be a more appropriate turn of phrase. gvg botting is pretty out of control already. Gringo 16:14, May 6, 2010 (UTC)


lolwut? --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 22:45, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

oh hey now. fixd Gringo 22:48, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
lolz --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 22:48, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
escape ranger is back? or it just never fully died? ··· Danny So Cute 02:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
no one runs it, but i thought escape ended on all attack not melee, so i archived. it deserves an archive regardless but who rly cares. Gringo 02:50, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
when/if sw finally gets nerfed, gvg might start seeing skilled play again. maybe. (and by skilled, i mean only 1/3 teams you face will be hexways.) ··· Danny So Cute 02:56, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

whats your IGN? ive played for so long and somehow have never come across you ingame i dont think. except for like a year ago in RA but that doesn't count --Angelus 22:41, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

are you in that byob guild that plays on uncharted? if so i play you fairly often, i always see an angelus over there. my name normally contains Saint (there are 3 other plays that gvg with the name tho), and my para is daniel tammet. Gringo 22:52, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
yeah [wawr]. thats my main. my second is in [TruE] right now. ill add you, we can be e-buddies --Angelus 23:05, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

lol wawr, also saint.

Mind Blast Immolate Flame Djinn's Haste Glyph of Lesser Energy Heal Party Healing Breeze Mending Touch Cure Hex

--Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 08:09, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

It was a strong flagger tbh --Steamy..x 09:10, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Oh i just realised he had patient not cure hex. --Steamy..x 09:18, May 28, 2010 (UTC)


Okay. So. 1 week before, anet insanely buffs mesmers completely changing the week. 2 days before they ban like 50% of the top 100. 1 day before they nerf the OP mesmers. Anybody else think this is going to be the most chaotic mat in the history of gilwor? And maybe the meta might actually be good now.. balanced shit might actually see some use! --Steamy..x 09:06, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Quad ele. --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 09:40, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Maybe on the next rota then --Steamy..x 09:57, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Most Top 100 got there by botting---XTREME 10:10, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
So if your in top 100 your a bot? Nice joke, alot of top 100 did bot but that doesnt mean everybody did. --Steamy..x 11:03, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Point was that botting wrecked the player base....it stopped good players from playing (cause they can't match bot speed) thus reducing the quality of play making it easy to make top 100. Damage was done and trying to get the good players back to playing will be the next task (if possible). However you are right there are some in the top 100 that didn't bot....but they haven't gone against the best either---XTREME 11:13, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Most people in top 100 who got banned for botting just ran the program like once, and since you don't know anybody in the top 100 Xtreme, there's no point acting like you know what's happening. --Crow 11:38, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
Most people who matter that is. --Crow 11:39, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
It wasn't like a majority of top 100 players botted, although there were quite a few. But like Crow said, most just tried it since nobody thought they could get banned, and then stopped. --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 11:53, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
I do try and stay up to date Mr.Crow. I think you need to contribute more so we I can be enlightened.---XTREME 14:24, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
lol? --Steamy..x 14:25, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
No I mean it. I have tons of respect for Mr.Crow and I am sad that he places me in such a light.---XTREME 14:38, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
You'll learn someday extreme. just keep trying. Brandnew 14:39, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
I can learn are you next? (now that was a joke)---XTREME 15:29, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
If you want him to view you in a better light i wouldnt say stuff like top 100 got there by botting. --Steamy..x 16:18, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) maybe like 5% of the gvg community was even affected by this. if you take out guilds like GWCA/GaGa, then most guilds had between 0-2 ppl banned, out of 8-14. it does suck that mesmers were nerfed the day before the mAT, we hadn't practiced bala like most ppl did before the mesmer buff. Gringo 16:26, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

lol sC only have 1 person on core who isnt banned :> --Steamy..x 16:45, May 28, 2010 (UTC)


I heard you joined and if they botted and ran lame stuff in GWCA, why would they play honor in Bro? o.O--Steamy..x 23:49, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

? cuz its not all gwca? plus they haven't lamed yet, so why shoot the dog before it barks. Gringo 00:27, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Odd, chris said it was all the GWCA people who didnt get banned. oh well.--Steamy..x 00:33, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
+ a bunch of non-gwca people. and the key bit there is that they were the ones not banned. either they aren't cheaters or theyre damn clever ^_^ Gringo 01:27, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Heh true. Is it holes guild? I heard hes there too.--Steamy..x 10:25, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
unfortunately ye Gringo 15:24, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
I can't claim to know him that well but he seemed like a nice enough guy while i leeched GWCA for a few days, why the unfortunately?--Steamy..x 15:42, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


sign them. You seem to be forgetting increasingly more =/ ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:15, June 9, 2010 (UTC)


Yeah i know we piss each other off. Phen's looking for people for his meta caretakers thing. Besides lemming, crow, and maybe me, you're the only one on pvx who's even remotely close to qualified for the position. Interested?--TahiriVeila 05:07, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

anyone plays gw? Frosty 10:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
nop, and you're a nig. that is all Gringo 15:02, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
<3--TahiriVeila 18:03, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


So did you have a question you wanted to ask, or was that just you making an ass out of yourself again? Daññy

you: trolls helps the site by keeping bad users away from it. me: how do you get logic like that, if it also keeps good users away? you: OMG U SUCH A TROLL.
go away nigga. Gringo 23:42, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
"I think you're mistakenly assuming that the trolls aren't the ones that ruined PvX. If the trolls did anything, they kept it to a certain level of quality. Our admins never had the basis or testicles to ban people who just kept crying about their builds. They still don't. (No offense to you admins, but the Physway thing is all the proof I feel I need to say that.) If you want PvX to have greater quality - which it certainly needs and which it has the potential for - you need to encourage users but also maintain that admins reserve the right to tell anyone to fuck off at any given time for any reason. And you needs admins that don't feel like dealing with drama - unless it's with a banstick. Daññy 22:46, August 15, 2010 (UTC) "
"i don't see how you justify logic like this. i think you're saying trolls helped because they would rid the site of users who got butthurt over builds. who cares about users who get butthurt over builds? rather have them around then have idiot trolls like you and thunda around. Gringo 23:59, August 15, 2010 (UTC) "
sorry, but that doesn't sound anything like "how do you get logic like that etc.?" also, what good users have ever been on pvx? Daññy 03:23, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
my statement starts with "i dont see how you justify logic like this", and you end with "how does this sound anything like "how do you get logic like that etc."" are you dumb or blind. Gringo 04:37, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
The issue is that that's a, as you pointed out, statement. Not a question. Of course you don't see how I could justify it. You're dumber than me. Daññy 08:43, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
yep i suck, u rule, u king of pvx u so awesome. now go away. Gringo 16:20, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
lol. Daññy 18:48, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
Crow, lemming, and smurf.--TahiriVeila 03:37, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
The logic behind PvX being functional only by trolling the majority of people off the site is arguable to the least, which he pointed out. After that it really just comes down to deliberate misinterpretation of his words, then justifying that with twisted logic ^___^ What the fuck, it's Saint, he doesn't always bother putting himself properly. You get his point, if you don't, then, I just explained it, so please address that instead of his semantics (if it's wrong to use "semantics" in this context then please laugh at the irony and correct me) :> ---Chaos- (moo!) -- 17:58, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
I'd really rather not. If he was capable of having an intelligent conversation even once, I'd feel differently. But as it stands, it's not worth my time to do anything besides insult him for any possible reason. Daññy 18:48, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


YOU R10 YET PRO? skakid9090 03:37, September 17, 2010 (UTC)