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:Also, when the first thing you do on the wiki is make a long rant about how the sysops are biased, then (possibly) make a sock, then complain to the admins about nonexistant NPA and conflict (he's fooling around... not hard to see), then lie about additional vandalizing, then criticize the userpage of an admin... not your best foot forward. -- [[User:Armond|Armond Warblade]][[Image:Armond sig image.png]]<small><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[PvXwiki:Administrators|sysop]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></small> 22:04, 26 December 2007 (EST)
:Also, when the first thing you do on the wiki is make a long rant about how the sysops are biased, then (possibly) make a sock, then complain to the admins about nonexistant NPA and conflict (he's fooling around... not hard to see), then lie about additional vandalizing, then criticize the userpage of an admin... not your best foot forward. -- [[User:Armond|Armond Warblade]][[Image:Armond sig image.png]]<small><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[PvXwiki:Administrators|sysop]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></small> 22:04, 26 December 2007 (EST)
:Not grinch's userpage. Whatever it is. He's free to do as he wants to get his job done. -- [[User:Armond|Armond Warblade]][[Image:Armond sig image.png]]<small><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[PvXwiki:Administrators|sysop]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></small> 22:05, 26 December 2007 (EST)
:Not grinch's userpage. Whatever it is. He's free to do as he wants to get his job done. -- [[User:Armond|Armond Warblade]][[Image:Armond sig image.png]]<small><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[PvXwiki:Administrators|sysop]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></small> 22:05, 26 December 2007 (EST)
[[user:misfate]] also vandalized the user page, as well as another user page - [[user:reality]]. [[User:Death|Death]] 22:07, 26 December 2007 (EST)

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My Talk Page

Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3 Archive 4 Archive 5

This is not a blank talk page. Discuss. Lord Belar 05:26, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

Lies. All lies! Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 05:26, 21 October 2007 (CEST)
Think it's time for another archive? Lord Belar 05:29, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

WARNING: This page is 20 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. --GEO-logo.png Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 07:48, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

Oh no! The page is so...BIG! archive pls ----InfestedHydralisk Shadow Prison.jpg 13:55, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

Build:D/A Shadow Scythe

Not sure on procedure for getting hold of admins round here, little help please? Lord of all tyria 23:35, 22 October 2007 (CEST)

General procedure is PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard, but talk pages still work. -Auron 23:38, 22 October 2007 (CEST)
Reverted all changes. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 23:38, 22 October 2007 (CEST)

Recheck my build ^_^

I fixed it up according to the build building page. is it better? --Shadowsin 05:24, 23 October 2007 (CEST)


OotS. Wish there were a way to make that WTF bigger without breaking the page. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 09:00, 25 October 2007 (CEST)

Getting real close to number 500, too... Oh, and the thread on that strip is pretty interesting. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 09:00, 25 October 2007 (CEST)
107 days eh? That went by fast. -Auron 09:20, 25 October 2007 (CEST)
103? Plus time spent judging him. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 09:43, 25 October 2007 (CEST)

Guild Page user:P C Gamer

Sorry but I was just trying to figure out wiki code and how to create it. What am I doing wrong?P C Gamer 05:03, 26 October 2007 (CEST)

Check your talk page. -- 05:04, 26 October 2007 (CEST)
(EC):You could make one connected to your user page by using this link: User:P C Gamer/Guild Page Hammer And Sickle.png۷ïεדt/c 05:05, 26 October 2007 (CEST)
Guild pages don't belong on this wiki. Ever. Lord Belar 05:04, 26 October 2007 (CEST)
Userspace is fine. Just don't use it as your guild's personal forum, PC. Thnx. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 06:12, 26 October 2007 (CEST)
I figured out what I was doing wrong. Thanks for the help.P C Gamer 07:14, 26 October 2007 (CEST)

Letter thingy.

I'll sign, if thats what you're after. - Rawrawr 19:56, 27 October 2007 (CEST)

What exactly is the "sorry state of affairs" anyway..? Mind being more elaborate. I'm interested, but confused, too. Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 21:33, 3 November 2007 (CET)


Where did the quicklinks to the contests go? I'm to tired to find them myself in my "my contributions" thingie, could you please add them or something? Free cookie if you do. Healing Burst.jpg †Godliest† -- My Sandbox 21:15, 30 October 2007 (CET)

How do i call an admin

First sorry for choosing u as my "target" but.. im kinda lost in all this, i wanna call an admin, to look at a vote in a build that i recently posted. . Rapta's comment do most of all sound like some kind of "bitching" and he voted 1/1/0 to my build. Its ok if he dont like it, but its kinda strange that the other ppl who rated it likes it then. If he really dont like it, i would like to see a better reason... if that possible?Ashes 00:19, 3 November 2007 (CET)

Rapta knows what he's talking about. The other AoD build is better. --InternetLOL 00:21, 3 November 2007 (CET)
Rapta's vote is perfectly valid, so there's not much that I can do about it. If you'd like more information, the best thing you can do is to (respectfully) ask Rapta for more information on his talk page. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 00:30, 3 November 2007 (CET)


Would you please review Rapta's vote on Deadly Winds? He removed my review request from the Admin Noticeboard, and he's put up an unnecessarily biased delete tag on the build. I'm sorry to have to take this to you, but seeing as I'm not in any position of power and I'm, of course, slightly biased, I feel you'd probably be the best person to handle the situation. Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 02:14, 3 November 2007 (CET)

If you looked closely, the request was placed at the bottom of the list. It wasn't removed. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 02:15, 3 November 2007 (CET)
Apologizing here, too. In the changes, in looked like it got deleted, not moved. Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 02:19, 3 November 2007 (CET)
As a note for future reference, please leave build requests at the end of the appropriate section, rather than at the top. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 02:21, 3 November 2007 (CET)
T_T I usually do. Anyway, back to the main point, I'm hoping Defiant Elements here can review our arguments. I'll let his decision be final, seeing as he hasn't been directly involved up to this point. Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 02:22, 3 November 2007 (CET)
Rapta's vote looks fine to me. It's not a good build, and vastly inferior to any other assassacaster builds. Lord Belar 02:41, 3 November 2007 (CET)

Votes on A/W Gladiator Assassin

Dear Defiant Elements. As with a new build, I made a build to be designed in the Steel Wall Deep Group, but I made a new article for it. I made a build that matches my standards, and that of the original warrior builds from build: Team - "Steel Wall" Deep Group. There are currently 4 votes on the build, with only one i think is right. The first 3 votes on the build, A/W Gladiator Assassin, state that the build has no defense against casters. But if I take a look at the team-build, i see that the warrior builds also have not any defense against casters. That is why I think these votes should be revised, and/or be removed. Thanks. Adriaanz 15:22, 3 November 2007 (CET)

Warrior has high defense and Dolyak Signet provides more armor, there's your defense against casters ----InfestedHydralisk Shadow Prison.jpg 19:17, 3 November 2007 (CET)
Now there is a vote that has overall a 1, and it says it has good defense, but little damage! Come on, this build was made for tanking, this one really gotta be removed. Adriaanz 23:51, 3 November 2007 (CET)
Here is another vote. Some Peter, said that the build doesn't work, is untested, and gave an overall 1. This is untrue. I tested the build myself in Normal Mode and Hard Mode, and it does work, only the Scorpion Aspect will cause some pain, that's all. Kanaxai himself is easy to handle too. Please take a look at this. Adriaanz (talk*pvxcontribs) 10:35, 10 November 2007 (CET)


That's very helpful, imo — Skakid9090 21:45, 3 November 2007 (CET)

What is? Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 21:45, 3 November 2007 (CET)
Even if it doesn't redirect, it gives you a link to the skill page. --Wizardboy777 Sig.jpgWizardboy777(T/C/Sysop) 21:47, 3 November 2007 (CET)
Ok fine... then revert it, doesn't make a real difference to me... I'm just trying to get rid of unneeded redirects, if I delete a couple that shouldn't be, then go ahead and revert it. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 21:48, 3 November 2007 (CET)
If it clogs any special pages I can go changing them to links — Skakid9090 21:50, 3 November 2007 (CET)
It's not such a big deal one way or the other to be honest. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 21:52, 3 November 2007 (CET)

Gold Star

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For clearing out Grace expired! Congrulations! —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 21:56, 3 November 2007 (CET)

Weird Ranger Build

I'm returning the favor for those Weird Assassin Builds you showed me before. Check this out. <pvxbig> [build prof=Ranger/Dervish Marksmanship=10+1+1 Expertise=11+1 EarthPrayers=10][Ebon Dust Aura][Volley][Distracting Shot][Called Shot][Conviction][Vital Boon][Signet of Pious Light][Resurrection Signet][/build] </pvxbig> Just pack along a Ebon bow (Longbow or Flatbow is probably best choice). Have fun blinding people. --GEO-logo.png Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 01:04, 4 November 2007 (CET)

doesn't look too bad to me, but for pve only, that is, and against melee mobs, then you can perhaps duo them without a monk. i guess... --MangleD sig.jpgmangleD(T/C) 22:57, 5 November 2007 (CET)
Didn't DE make a EDA volleyer? --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 01:04, 6 November 2007 (CET)
Don't know, I don't check the builds section that often. :P --GEO-logo.png Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 01:07, 6 November 2007 (CET)
Yeah, I did. I think mine was for AB though. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:31, 6 November 2007 (CET)
Hmm, I'll have to try harder! What skill combination could there possibly be that D.E. hasn't thought of or tried out yet? I'll have to spend a little time on this one. --GEO-logo.png Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 02:54, 6 November 2007 (CET)
I don't think there are very many, my builds tend to be high on the innovation scale -- and as a result, occasionally low on the effectiveness scale :). Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 04:01, 6 November 2007 (CET)
My builds just seem to attract the triple 0 of death quite a bit. Or they get a few really good ratings, then people like Skakid and Rapta see them and they get balance-voted into the hands of Wizardboy, may God have mercy on them. >.> Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 04:06, 6 November 2007 (CET)
I pride myself on my proficiency with Assassins in general; there's just about no build I can't use or make work. That said, I rarely submit Assassin builds, knowing fully that chances are, I'm the only one who can make it work. :P (Seeping Wound, Way of the Assassin, Way of the Empty Palm, and all those fun skills. (On that note, I did get my WotA build vetted.)) --GEO-logo.png Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 04:26, 6 November 2007 (CET)

Thanks for the info

Thanks for the info. Idk how often i will be making builds but i will make contributions towards their vetting and such.Apu of Kwik E 23:41, 6 November 2007 (CET)


Could I get some help with the icons on User:Teh Uber Pwnzer/Template:Top Box? They wont redirect correctly. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 02:48, 7 November 2007 (CET)

It seems to be working for me. :? --InternetLOL 02:51, 7 November 2007 (CET)
That's odd, the code looks right. Lord Belar 03:20, 7 November 2007 (CET)
Clear your cache. -Auron 03:24, 7 November 2007 (CET)
Purge server cache — do this if updated content does not show
? — Teh Uber Pwnzer 03:28, 7 November 2007 (CET)
I'm working on it. I have the same problem, and I know exactly what it is. No worries. Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 03:33, 7 November 2007 (CET)
I retract my previous statement. I've got no idea whats wrong. I'll mess around with it if you want me to, otherwise, my only guess is that it has to do with where you're trying to redirect to. Try redirecting somewhere with a simple name and see if that even works. Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 03:42, 7 November 2007 (CET)
Hold Ctrl and hit F5. Clears your cache. -- 03:44, 7 November 2007 (CET)
Hold Alt and hit F4 to clear your screen. :P Lord Belar 04:15, 7 November 2007 (CET)
Hit WinKey, U, U to win 10 internets! Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 04:49, 7 November 2007 (CET)
On a similar note, cache cleared and still Cedave has problems. T_T Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 04:50, 7 November 2007 (CET)
Well, we know you have problems, but I don't think anyone here can help with that. :P Lord Belar 22:46, 7 November 2007 (CET)
You're just jealous you don't get as many pills as I do! Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 04:17, 9 November 2007 (CET)

Come help with my retarded build idea

User:Edru viransu/Builds/GvG/Mind Blast Hexes --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 00:00, 8 November 2007 (CET)

Nuker's Promise

Hi you deleted a build of mine, E/A Nuker's Promise (which used Assassin's Promise to recharge GoS MS combo) and I am told the reason was it was a duplicate. I am having trouble finding a duplicate/vatiant of the build on the wiki, could you please link me to the build you were referring to? Dancing Gnome 04:21, 8 November 2007 (CET)

Probably a dupe of this. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 04:32, 8 November 2007 (CET)


Less than two months... Congrats, and thanks for the insight to my life in a few years. o.O -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 10:57, 9 November 2007 (CET)

You too?

Admins have recently been on something that improves their deleting prowess and makes them beasts, watch out for surprise drug testings. --Wyvern 06:44, 10 November 2007 (CET)

SUPRIZE BUTTSE - oh, wait, doesn't really apply here. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 09:54, 10 November 2007 (CET)
OR DOES IT??? -Auron 10:29, 10 November 2007 (CET)
It always applies. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 13:16, 12 November 2007 (CET)


Please check out my post on PvXwiki:Financing. It's important that all admins at least leave a comment. gcardinal 09:01, 12 November 2007 (CET)


sorry i didn't notice first time making build :( The preceding unsigned comment was added by EpicWiki (talk • contribs) .
thanks EpicWiki 07:07, 17 November 2007 (CET)

Temple Of The Damned

Why did you change the category back to testing after I had placed it in the Great category? The Real Vetting policy states that after at least 5 votes, it can be assigned a category. I was the 5th voter. - Lord Xivor 09:09, 17 November 2007 (CET)

My guess would be a vote was removed somewhere without you noticing it. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 11:39, 17 November 2007 (CET)
Thanks. It is no big deal to me. I just want to make sure if I am breaking some sort of policy or something, that I am aware of it. - Lord Xivor 15:55, 17 November 2007 (CET)

Epic admining imo

Special:RecentRatings Special:RecentChanges. so epic, it was noticed by [Zeus], pvx trollers that we are. gg.Dark0805sig2.PNG 00:42, 25 November 2007 (CET)

+1 —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 01:36, 25 November 2007 (CET)


Please don't abuse your Sysop powers. § Eloc § 09:00, 25 November 2007 (CET)

Ok... I'm gonna admit that I'm ignorant here... how/when did I abuse Sysop powers? Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:01, 25 November 2007 (CET)
I figure he's referring to Build:D/A Lyssa's Fury. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 09:03, 25 November 2007 (CET)
I need to unwatch a few pages, methinks. Anyway, even I'm confused here. Unless he deleted someones comments, I'm thoroughly confused as to how DE did anything to that page. ??? Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 09:06, 25 November 2007 (CET)
He deleted it. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 09:07, 25 November 2007 (CET)
Really? *Goes to check Deletion Logs* Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:07, 25 November 2007 (CET)
This is relevant. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 09:09, 25 November 2007 (CET)
I can't see myself doing it for no reason... *goes to investigate* Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:10, 25 November 2007 (CET)
It would appear I did so based on an old Noticeboard entry see here that stated that the build had been improperly moved back into Trial. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:12, 25 November 2007 (CET)
So... Eloc, did you *ever* change the build in such a manner than it should be in Trial right now? Or should it *still* be in Trash? Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:13, 25 November 2007 (CET)
Uhh... I'm thinking that Lyssa's Fury, seeing as it failed once prior to this whole ordeal, is just a bad idea in general. Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 09:16, 25 November 2007 (CET)
Hmmm... you appear to have changed a single skill and edited the variants section slightly. Methinks it should still be in Trash (although the votes appear to have been wiped by the deletion). Well... no matter... since you haven't changed anything, the result will likely be the same. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:17, 25 November 2007 (CET)
Do we have a policy regarding pages being resubmitted under different categories? I mean.. if you don't make any real changes to a build, then just resubmit it under another category... Bleh. Anyway, do we have something that covers that sorta thing? Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 09:19, 25 November 2007 (CET)
Aside from common sense? No. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:20, 25 November 2007 (CET)
Hmmk.. Well.. Could be useful to throw that into some existing policy, perhaps. I don't really know. I know all the PvX vets have a habit of just reaming the ratings pages of many builds, so I'll leave that up to you guys to determine the usefulness of such a thing. School and work have eaten up all the time I have to spare besides about a half hour on here every day or two. Cedave bad.png cedave (contributions_buildpage) 09:26, 25 November 2007 (CET)
In theory, changing the category could have an effect on rating, but that's usually more of a factor when a build starts off with a category tag that it shouldn't have had and people on the Rating and/or Discussion page make a point of saying that the build isn't qualified for GvG or HA or whatever. I don't see a purpose for a policy both because there could be a scenario in which changing the category could change the build's viability and because, to be perfectly honest, this is the first instance I've seen where this has been an issue. Either way, if the build is bad, it'll still get a bad rating, and if it becomes excessive (i.e. an author changing the tag 6 times to get it re-voted upon) then someone will step in. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:31, 25 November 2007 (CET)
I put it back into Trial under a different category so that I could get some criticism on it. If it's in Trash, then people won't say anything about it and just leave it alone. My whole goal is to try and make it better. § Eloc § 17:26, 25 November 2007 (CET)
Wait... do you intend to attempt to have it vetted under that category, or are you simply attempting to abuse a loop-hole with the intention of switching back to the original category? Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG *Defiant Elements* +talk 22:08, 25 November 2007 (CET)
Nono Ben, I'm supposed to be the blunt one, you're the diplomatic one.
So, wait, do you intend to attempt to have it vetted under that category, or are you simply attempting to abuse a loophole with the intention of switching back to the original category? -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 00:08, 26 November 2007 (CET)
I'm the blunt one. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 03:16, 26 November 2007 (CET)
I'm the troll. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 03:19, 26 November 2007 (CET)
(reset indent): Me too! I'm also fairly diplomatic, and I enjoy reseting indents when my giant screen resolution starts having trouble holding everything. But Eloc, if the only reason you're resubmitting is simply to get more attention to the build, and the first time around it went straight to trash... perhaps you should dismantle it a bit, pull out some of the reasons people trashed it the first time, and simply make a new build of it. Then just keep it in the trial phase for a bit longer this time. If it still sucks, it'll get trashed again, but at least this time, you'll get the feedback you want (hopefully), and you won't have to worry about being accused of sneaking the build in via a loophole, per say. --GEO-logo.png Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 03:49, 26 November 2007 (CET)
I'm planning on making the build better and then testing it under RA category. § Eloc § 04:05, 26 November 2007 (CET)

Quick Question(s)

Do you believe that the state will remain the primary actor on the stage of world politics into the 21st century? Is its sovereignty being undermined by other inter-state organizations, such as multinational corporations and intergovernmental organizations like the UN and the EU? Do you subscribe to Huntington's Clash of Civilizations theory? Just wondering. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 07:51, 5 December 2007 (CET)

Civilization VI tells me yes no yes, Starfish tells me no yes yes. I tell myself maybe yes yes. CoC only applies at the current level of population, though, and something tells me it's gonna drop pretty drastically in the next century or so. -- 07:59, 5 December 2007 (CET) lol answering questions that weren't directed at me
Interesting. I believe the global population will rise, much like the sharp rise in population after the discovery and availability of penicillin and antibiotic drugs around the end of WWII, this time due in part to advances in health technology such as stem cell research. People will be living longer, and will remain fertile for longer in proportion to their lifespan. I don't foresee us ending world poverty until it becomes advantageous to us as well, and since poor people typically have higher birth rates, the population ought to continue growing. Of course, there will always be the chance of nuclear war or undiscovered biological menaces and whatnot, but the UN agrees that world population will continue to climb. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 08:08, 5 December 2007 (CET)
I'm not so sure a nuclear war is very possible, other than the fact that we have them, its more of a deterrent than anything else, any intelligent nation knows that the onset of nuclear war, aside from a bomb going off in their respective country, would have drastic repercussions on themselves as far as an economical and environmental standpoint. As for the population, it will continue to rise simply due to the ongoing research in medicine and the mass amounts of medical discoveries and procedures. Medicine>Us. XD.--Shadowsin 08:13, 5 December 2007 (CET)
Nuclear war is very possible. Humankind has the ability to eradicate itself and everything on the planet hundreds of times over because of nuclear weapons. A nuclear terrorist attack/campaign is a remote possibility, because when a non-state actor initiates a military action such as that, they are not considering the economical and environmental consequences. They are concerning themselves only with expelling foreign influence, advancing a religious war, obtaining national self-determination, etc etc, achieving their own private goals. As long as none of these bodies that have no responsibility to human populations obtain weapons of mass destruction (which is a remote and avoidable possibility), then we should all be secure. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 08:20, 5 December 2007 (CET)
Well, other than having every intelligent nation down on them within a few hours of the threat of a nuclear bomb going off, or for that matter, one just randomly exploding, i think that would deter any terrorist or supremest group wanting to get their way. I wonder when people will realize that killing, other than being effective population control, doesnt really solve anything. The threat of attack, or the initial attack itself only causes the target to become defensive and go on a counter or "revenge" trip. The more people that die, and the more wars that are fought will only add to peoples anger and fuel the drive for retaliation. --Shadowsin 08:28, 5 December 2007 (CET)
Yeah, world population as a whole will continue to climb, but most developed countries have very little growth or have stopped growing altogether. Obscenely high birth rates in underdeveloped countries combined with immigration caps, renewed global tensions, and a looming swing in economical dominance are going to create some very discomfited people in charge of dying world superpowers facing down some very angry people in charge of the world's newly-born manufacturing powerhouses, and when that's taken with the upsurge in willful (religious) atavism that's seeming to spread like a plague and humanity being due for a major epidemic about the time the developed world's resistance will be in the shithole from overprescription and the world will have heated up enough for it to spread much more rapidly than it would have been able to forty years ago, and I can't see this next century being a whole lot of fun.
On the upside, there's gonna be some pretty cool shit coming out in the next forty years, so hopefully I'll live long enough to see some of that. -- 08:23, 5 December 2007 (CET)
Not true, Shadow. Most often, escalating death tolls, human destruction, environmental damage etc provoke people to reconcile rather than retaliate. Many terrorists accept the possibilty of death before beginning their missions, as do many of those who are positioned to defend against them. When you become so consumed with hatred that you would launch a military attack against a civilian population, your logic has become consumed by that hatred. For example, if Palestinian terrorists weren't so consumed by rage and hatred, they would abandon the policy of civilian killing, and target occupationalist strongholds to weaken their presence in the area. Personally, I take small comfort in the fact that all of the problems that plague our world today are resolvable. We can end them if you obtain the political power to. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 08:40, 5 December 2007 (CET)
Actually, Palestinians haven't targeted civilians in a while outside of indiscriminate rocket attacks which the Israelis are much more fond of, and Hamas has actually been seeking a peaceful resolution with the Israelis for about two months now (don't quote me on that time frame). It just isn't to the Israelis' advantage to accept it. In before anti-Semite. -- 08:46, 5 December 2007 (CET)
To be fair, it's hard to make indiscriminate attacks against sites of strategic value. If you are firing indiscriminately, you are usually hoping to maximize the civilian death toll, and/or to deplete your opponent's morale (similar to how Hitler bombed civilian sectors of Britain in WWII. Had he targetted military installations, he could have achieved aerial superiority; instead, his choice in targets allowed the RAF to mount a staunch defense). Until military targets are clumped together the way civilians often are, indiscriminate attacks against them will be of minimal value. - Kowal.jpg Krowman {{sysop}} 08:52, 5 December 2007 (CET)
And that's why I like to stay the hell away from any argument involving Israel, especially considering the general American mindset regarding them: They're right, and if you disagree you're a racist. -- 08:57, 5 December 2007 (CET)
As far as nuclear attacks are concerned I'll leave you to ponder this simple question. If a suicide bomber can willingly give his life for what he believes in, what makes you think that someone with the same mindset would not push that button? Selket Shadowdancer 15:18, 26 December 2007 (EST)

My Contest :)

Thought you would like to know, that I'm currently running a Contest :) ( Inspired from your ones :) ) :P Know that you are creative, so the link is up above and any1 may enter P.S Posting this note to every1 who posted on my Talk :) ExpMoIcon.jpgExperienced 05:34, 6 December 2007 (CET)


Notice main page? ~~ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 02:20, 11 December 2007 (CET)

Yeah, Defiant is gonna get owned though, but I voted for him. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey.JPG Ressmonkey (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2007 (CET)
Same, but mine doesn't count. ): -- 03:02, 13 December 2007 (CET)
Wouldn't say he'll get "owned", lots of users from GWW know him from GuildWiki as a good guy. He's at least got a chance, no matter the size of said chance. Also, there's a total of three 'crats if I recall, so he can be beaten out by two other people and still win, unless I'm mistaken. --GEO-logo.png Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 07:45, 13 December 2007 (CET)
There's only one seat open. — Eloc
They stagger the elections by two months and terms are for six. So there's a max of one new bcrat at any given time. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:25, 21 December 2007 (EST)
I would have voted for you, but alas, i lack enough contributions. Their loss imo, but tbh, idk if you could have helped fixed the problems with the wiki anyway, as the people running it don't seem to want them fixed or acknowledge that they are even there.Bob fregman 16:18, 23 December 2007 (EST)
Being a bureaucrat doesn't give you any more say in policies then any other user. DE is still fairly well-known there by most of the members, who knew him from GuildWiki... policy suggestions and whatnot can be done by anyone, and I agree with most of the people there when they say that's the best way to go about it. If people don't pay attention to policy proposals, keep trying. There's no harm to be had in repeating yourself.
Also, GW2W is just up and running, and policies there are currently non-existent; people are discussing how they should have admins there, and I might say, it's a great place to bestow some of your current experience... --GEO-logo.png Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 20:17, 23 December 2007 (EST)


Ban me, but keep my ip unbanned please.1 22:34, 20 December 2007 (EST)


someone does not with me a merry christmas: User_talk:Coloneh#Your_one_hell_of_an_idiot. thought you might wanna know. happy holidays!--Coloneh 14:03, 25 December 2007 (EST)

report of vandalism

occurred on this page: user:death

committed by User:Rawrawr_Dinosaur

"This means that, with a few exceptions, no user should edit another user's page." - PvXwiki:Editing_User_Pages

see the user talk page for further evidence of disrespect, evidence of the intention of rawrawr dinosaur (to invoke conflict and violations of NPA). the talk page is here User_talk:Death


-Death 21:53, 26 December 2007 (EST)

User:Mgrinshpon also vandalized the same page. His tone on the user page is also not appropriate for a community based website.

Please punish these users as you would anyone else. Death 21:56, 26 December 2007 (EST)

Grinch reverted the vandalism, rawr didn't do NPA, rawr and misfate were banned, zzz. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 22:00, 26 December 2007 (EST)
Also, when the first thing you do on the wiki is make a long rant about how the sysops are biased, then (possibly) make a sock, then complain to the admins about nonexistant NPA and conflict (he's fooling around... not hard to see), then lie about additional vandalizing, then criticize the userpage of an admin... not your best foot forward. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 22:04, 26 December 2007 (EST)
Not grinch's userpage. Whatever it is. He's free to do as he wants to get his job done. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 22:05, 26 December 2007 (EST)

user:misfate also vandalized the user page, as well as another user page - user:reality. Death 22:07, 26 December 2007 (EST)

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