Mr. Zebra's Lair.
The Path to Ruin.
The Keeper's Grotto.
Forest of Lies.
Fields of Chaos.
Uncrossed Peaks.
Court of Aelinyus.
Shores of Neverland.
The Horizon.
Sea of Tranquility.
The Bandit Camp.
The Rescue Operation.
An Unpleasant Surprise.
Triangle Drama!
Hearts and Spades.
Only Spades.
The End.

RwrrRRrrrr vihainen pupu.jpg

Gift--X 11:29, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

He.. is.. so.. ugly :> Give Lau 24 hours to replace it with a cute pupu ^^ ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:37, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
lol what do you expect from a euro--X 11:42, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
Shush, I'm euro too, and rather good looking! ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:48, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
Goodlooking? For a vine swinger tarzan wannabe. I guess. I don't judge guys like that.--X 11:53, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
Ouch. Too many punches under the belt today.
Also, it's an amazing picture, and that night-hike-thingy was amazing fun :3 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:55, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
It is a cool pic...looks like fun...I used to do that back in the day--X 11:59, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
Sure you did :> ---Chaos- (talk) -- 12:00, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks our converstaion make no sense whatsoever.--X 15:42, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

PvX makes sense?--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig.jpg $ɧor₮ talk 16:30, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
The conversation makes it obvious that Lau replaced an ugly man with a cute pupu. Also, <3 Lau ^^ ---Chaos- (talk) -- 18:16, October 9, 2009 (UTC)


Take it easy there....I don't want you to get banned cause that means I am out too....just a little over the top I think (I still found it funny but Pissing off Miz is a bad idea)--X 12:42, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

"I don't really care about indenting. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 10:45, October 9, 2009 (UTC)"

What's indenting? --Frosty Mc Admin 13:46, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

No idea tbh, I just wrote a guide of it n' shiz'. Based on pure assumptions tho, like everything in this wiki. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 13:54, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

[1] ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:53, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

That edit is manlier than Primal Rage in a sauna. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:23, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
wtf?--X 21:55, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
wtf? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 08:06, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

lol at tiptttttttttttttttttt--Relyk 23:21, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

^^ ---Chaos- (talk) -- 07:38, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

hotpink>deeppink, tho deeppink looks better. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 08:52, October 10, 2009 (UTC)


>: that build is definitely not a 1-1. -- Drah 15:48, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I admit that it looks quite good, but I still assume it's bad until anyone good rates it high :o
Also, I don't think it matters if I rate 1-1 or 3-4 =/ Thus, I can just aswell 3-4 ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:53, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
i troll wiki when no one else is on, isnt that sad?--Relyk 10:00, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
Quite, but they'll answer later. 1pm wins. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:03, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I see

That you have fallen in love with me. That is, of course understandable. However, you must realise that fox is the only one for me.Oniwuvsfox 07:42, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oniwuvsfox 07:43, Octover 12, 2009 (UTC) Says
So say lololol owned. Fox007 User:Fox007 07:48, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Whoru? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 07:49, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
OniOniwuvsfox 07:50, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Obviously. So in other words a dickriding friend of Fox who decided to troll me because Fox is a faggot who doesn't have abilities to troll me himself. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 07:52, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Hah, fool. You're not worthy of me trolling you. I simply dumped you.
I see. Bye. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 08:11, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
What is this faggotry for chaos? late night at a gay bar?--Relyk 08:25, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
no it is a gayparade. Fox007 User:Fox007 08:30, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

saw this

[2] and thought of you. i herd its snowing in southern poroland today. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig.gif 12:23, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Indeeeed, there was a huge noise in our Chemistry class when people noticed it was snowing.
Also, cute mc cat <3 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 13:09, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Hey Chaos

y so srs? Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 18:53, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

/ave chain is srs bsns. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig.gif 18:55, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Kind of like Guild Wars! Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 18:56, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
/ave chain is srsly srs srs bsns. Also, go put a upside-down-w/ there. Mix around with fonts if necessary. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:13, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
cba Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 19:16, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Tbh, give in to my negative suggestioning, and understand the lovely irony in me reverting your combobreak, then influencing you into carrying on with the combo instead. You know you want to carry on with it yet you feel like you shouldn't because that's giving in to my psyching, and you have important things to do with your time. You also kind of want to give in to my influence because it's an awesome joke, but you really shouldn't because getting dominated is not okay. You do however want to get dominated, but don't do it, don't want to. It's just so lovely freedom when you don't always have to think for yourself, isn't it? So little stress, and it's funny.
Just try to not think about going there and doing that edit, you don't have to go to the Character Map to dig up an upside down w or alternatively an upside down e. You know you don't actually want to, though that chain is way cool and participating would be neat. evaw\. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:29, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
cool story bro Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 19:32, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
It was worth a shot. Also, as inspired by Derren Brown. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:35, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
He looks like a massive faggot. Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 19:45, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
You are wrong, he is a massive faggot. --Frosty Mc Admin 19:45, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Oh hai Frosty. Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 19:49, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
No I mean it, read the bottom of that page, he is a fag. Also, his illusions are pretty weak imo, maybe I am just amazing and see through it all. --Frosty Mc Admin 20:19, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Oh god he really is. ;o Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 20:26, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
I don't give a crap about illusionsss, but that Trick or Treat mental crap is funny. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 06:22, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
He should be one hell of a poker player.--X 10:18, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
He got the permission to enter a casino and play blackjack, he fucking raped. But his whole "I'm gonna predict the national lottery numbers" is what pissed me off, an Illusionist using camera trickery is not an illusion, it is fake. --Frosty Mc Admin 11:04, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
Most magic trick are fake but still neat to see and try and figure out how it was done. Now when you say "he fucking raped"...did you mean he got raped or he was the one doing the raping meaning he kicked ass? Thouse "mind readers" should really enter in a WSOP (world series of poker) tour and try to win. Guess they are scared of there "reputation" being destroyed being the fakes that they are.--X 11:57, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


i LOVE having huge dick in my ass The preceding unsigned comment was added by Necro Ecro (talk • contribs) 08:12, October 11, 2009.

First of all, I came to think of how you sure knew how to capslock/shift a single word, but didn't capitalize "I". That, combined with the low-level insult about me loving anal sex would indicate that you are a lazy teenager American kid with bad typing habits, or someone who doesn't speak English as a first language and is not quite yet used to always capitalizing the word "I". I suppose it's the first one, due to the type of the insult, and I'm sure someone foreign would anyways have wrote something grammatically incorrect, beyond the lazy lowercase "I". I'm sure I'm below such a perfect example of why the U.S. with their stable economy and obviously highly educated citizens which are much superior than us other gay faggots who can't breed because we have better sex.
Also, if you weren't so full of fail you would know that I am seemingly gay, which would indeed mean that I enjoy nothing more than having a huge boner up my ass. Alternatively, having a hairless male model suck itttt.
Your testicles have probably not even descended, I'm no pedofile.
Gtfo, you are bad. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 09:28, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
lol idc your the one who trolled my page fist dumb shit... and what did you say "BRUNO IS A MISERABLE FAGGOT " ... gj on sayin my insult was shitty ... your the one who went on a random page and trolled get a fuckin life lol ... ohh i am an american teen and i can most likely kick any europeans, or w/e the fuck they are called, ass ...suck my dick fagget :D-- † Ecro 23:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
Oh, that. It was very serious, and I believe that you should indeed get insulted, because I don't even know who Bruno is. If this aforementioned person would be you, I do indeed stay in my statement that Bruno is a faggot ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 06:32, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
Since you started talking about every european i feel insulted to Mr. Ecro and therefore This is bruno like him hate him fuck him do whateber you want. Fox007 User:Fox007 07:11, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
Will this convo go under your golden quotes chaos? :D---Button trolls autists- 14:31, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
^^ No, Fox had to interfere which, even if I'm being nice, really brought down the quality of this, and this is anyways just amazing stupidity a´la idiots :>
Chaos Le Cruel & Mean Bitch ---Chaos- (talk) -- 14:35, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
I Actually like chaos more when he's trying to be a Cruel and bitch then when he's normally trolling people because of stupidiness. Fox007 User:Fox007 14:52, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
Tbh, me too, but there are so few situations for a proper intellectual troll response. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 16:39, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Add me

Ikimono Morokan --Ikimono"...And my axe"Monk-Paragon-icon.png 15:23, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

I did that like ages ago ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:35, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Your comments on Build talk:Rt/Me Arena Support Healer

BLASPHEMY, my heal breeze necro does many pressures, shutdowns and heals :> --Frosty Mc Admin 17:17, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

I bet it has mucho energy and melee protection ;o Better not post it on PvX or it will get nerfed! ---Chaos- (talk) -- 17:33, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

The definition of being officially screwed up

Is when 3 sins in RA all step at you the same time to spike you + a pet runs up to you. I just lol'd irl so hard :'DDDDDDDD

In other news, none of them had a real spike bar =/ ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:47, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Any tall mc busty Swedish blonde around?

I'll be spending mucho of Thursday in Stockholm ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:02, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Yea call my mom, except be prepared for many-a-STDs.---Button trolls autists- 23:07, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
I went a month or so ago, the 6ft blondes are scary. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig.gif 23:08, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
Don't you worry, atleast GW characters are hotter as short ;o
Also, yeah :> ---Chaos- (talk) -- 23:10, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
(EC)Oh, but I just love the concept of being the father of my boyfriend's brother. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 23:10, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
I live in Stockholm, Im swed...--Rokroro 15:42, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
Owell, I already returned from there :p ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:56, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Well Tag

Your well tag is invalid. #1, its in stubs, #2, its an IW build. You welled an IW build based on one skill. Whats up? 14:58, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I cbf finding out if welling stubs is allowed or not, a build may be welled due to the elite skill choice or concept. Also, I didn't say it's because of just IoP, the bar itself is absolutely terrible. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:01, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
Um you said "Worst IoP build to date" That means you welled it for IoP. What then would you sugest for IW? Shireen 15:03, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
IoP is a good skill, I meant that out of all builds that are more or less built around IoP, it's definitely the worst one.
I can't really suggest anything, IW won't find use before it's buffed, and that's about as simple as it is. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:10, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough. Its IW thats still having the issue. I see what your saying. Still think this is a viable RA/TA build though. Shireen 15:23, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
RA is a lose category, but it's not a build for TA. Also, take the word of one who has been around, it's not going to get vetted. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:27, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate you guys taking the time for the discussion. If its not gonna be vetted, at least I know why now. And I've been around a while too... I helped refine a lot of the policies on this site. may I offer a sugestion that you give more impartial descriptors on your Welling, it almost sounds like your insulting the submitter the way you phrased my well, and you didn't adress the actual issue as to why it would be welled. More appropriate would be "IW does not offer adequete DPS, bar is unfocused." I may disagree with the unfocused part, but its a whole lot easier to take than "Worst IoP build ever!" =) Shireen 15:31, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
At the end of the day, it feels like it doesn't matter what I type on the well tag, I just try to resist the urge to write something like "herp di derp". [3]. It always ends up with discussions on the talk page, so meh. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:55, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Chaos I need your help xD

um, well I made this new build and I thought you maybe could look at it and tell improvements or other stuff.Rokroro 15:37, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Build:Rt/Me AB Channeler, that one? I'll have a look though. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:50, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Plan Z Sucks

I left to go join some random retard guild that does tournaments for money, join if you want. <3 Love ---Button trolls autists- 21:18, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Did you ever expect it to anything else than suck? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 13:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)


Zyke-Sig.png 00:09, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Saw this a week ago, I lol'd. --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 00:27, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
You so stole that off of my MSN status. >_> ~ Big Big sadface sig.PNG sysop 00:42, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
I have your MSN? Zyke-Sig.png 00:57, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
No sir, ;o ~ Big Big sadface sig.PNG sysop 01:20, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
Shut up woman, get on my horse <3 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 14:04, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

I like that more. -- Drah 01:28, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The horse thingy has quite amazing humor value, though the latter was less repetitiveeeeee. Also, <3 guys. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 14:04, October 19, 2009 (UTC)


Still learning myself... thant never came up before "(EC ×2)"--X 19:13, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Those (Reset indent) 's and (EC)'s are tricky ones, it took me months to figure them out, and I still can't remember for typing out "Edit conflict" instead of "EC".
<3 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:16, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
I've also come to notice that despite everyone having their moments of "deep" thinking, people actually don't tend to care about others on a real level. See how we for starters only had troll comments, and later on perhaps some real answers, much by the most active PvX'rs. We're all bad players and despite perhaps having a high intellect, we are incapable of taking a 3rd person perspective on our arguments. It's also possible that quite many of us have social disorders (I wouldn't be surprised if I had some).
X would like to say that this comment makes X sad. X think that X tries to care about others and if X has to talk in 3rd person to do it X will--X 21:11, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
Given, most people on this site don't understand the tactics necessary to be good at Guild Wars. That's largely because people around here, regardless of intellect, lack common sense. Most people here know Guild Wars, but most people don't have the ability to apply that knowledge.
Being incapable of looking at arguments objectively is just a human thing. Some can do it, most can't. It's a practiced talent, mostly.
There's also a terrifyingly high number of people born after 1995 who have developed social and neural disorders due to the internet culture, so you're right there.
··· Danny Pew Pew 21:23, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
I tend to think people do care and try at least--X 21:39, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
You're sorely mistaken when it comes to the majority. ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:00, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
Sad--X 23:17, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
I didn't even mean to be (much) bitter with that one. But in the end I'm just cynic.
And yeah, there are of course exceptions, and most people tend to be capable of caring after things reach a certain point, but somehow it takes time to reach that, and until that, it's just "lolemo dude, we don't care". ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:14, October 21, 2009 (UTC)


Take note to when the build was made. Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 23:37, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yes? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 04:58, October 22, 2009 (UTC)


Hello, stop being a finnish assfag.  Thomas So Dutch  14:19, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

<3 I knew there was a reference going on, but I didn't know what it was, so.. ;o I decided to be a finnish assfag! ---Chaos- (talk) -- 18:36, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Build:R/any Incendiary Assault has been updated. Please re-evaluate. Greevar 14:38, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

It's still bad :< ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:43, October 24, 2009 (UTC) (meh, putting underline thingy b/c it triggers spam filter)

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHSa safddsdsadsadsadsadsadsadadsadsadsadsa DDdsdsdads :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdddddDDDDDDDDD ---Chaos- (talk) -- 22:05, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Even funnier: Conservative Bible Project. EVEN THE BIBLE IS TOO LIBERAL FOR THEM! Zyke-Sig.png 07:05, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
Wow <3 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:57, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
so I won't invite the author over for a game of texas holdem with my topless girl cards then?----X 12:03, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
He'd crucify you sideways, because you're not worth to be crucified like Christ nor like... Damn, I can't remember his name, but he was crucified upside down. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 12:09, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

[5] Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 12:59, 25 October 2009

Also, this:
"My addition to this article ("Black people originated as descendants of Cain, along with Asians, Arabs, American Indians, Polynesians and other non-white races") has been proved by Creation Science. Creation Geneticists have found the gene EVL6 in all the races I listed, and EVL6 is traceable back to Cain."
Conservapedia is fucked up. Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 13:01, 25 October 2009
LOL! Link? So Jesus is the descendant of Cain too. Zyke-Sig.png 07:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Also, this Scientific Debates. Sooooo funny. Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 13:03, 25 October 2009
Hahahaaaaaaa ^^ ---Chaos- (talk) -- 13:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
I thought this was rather hilarious,
"Homosexuality comes from unhappiness within the family and leads to further unhappiness when embraced. It's like a facial defect (such as a cleft palate) which could be corrected with plastic surgery.
Gay rights activists complain that society's refusal to accept them as they are and to okay their sexual activities, is the only thing that stops them from being happy. But this is a foolish falsehood. Within the "gay community", the murder rate is high, The murder rate is 15 times higher among homosexuals than heterosexuals. [1] and even in "gay enclaves" like Provincetown, Massachusetts where there is no societal disapproval at all the rates for depression, suicide, Since homosexuals have greater numbers of partners and breakups, compared with heterosexuals, and since longterm gay male relationships are rarely monagamous, it is hardly surprising if suicide attempts are proportionally greater. [2] drug abuse, etc. are much higher than normal. "
I don't know if the people who don't live in/near california have heard of the Castro district of San Francisco [6] but it would suggest that this is about as far from the truth as possible. Also that first part is just really funny. -- Drah 16:01, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't be surprised if gay people are more depressed, seeing how they've went through struggles and even if accepted are slightly frowned upon. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 16:09, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

CA makes me forget about the outer GW world <3 I think that I can't use regular skills even outside of CA :> ---Chaos- (talk) -- 08:36, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


"<2" What the fuck is this? Don't say it's a gay thing----X 10:21, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

it means [-∞ , 2[ (all ℝeal numbers between -∞ and 2 not including 2)--37er 13:33, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
What he said. Some people also type that when they fail to type <3 and are too lazy to correct it, or when they don't love someone enough for a 3. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 14:14, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Smaller than 2. --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 14:23, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

You're never on

GW at the right time stupid Finn.----~Short~ 15:31, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Get on, stupid... Fag :o Necro. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:43, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Can't supposed to be doing work, hour or two? Also, which codex you running, you got two on page.----~Short~ 15:47, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
We kinda combined them around freely, and modded on the run. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:04, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

all the trolls here should start trolling the crap out of conservapedia--Relyk 07:44, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I can't register on it :> ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:04, October 30, 2009 (UTC)


Likes to revert admins...very entertaining....thought you would like to know----X 18:48, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Why are you telling Chaos of all people? Let him revert me anyway. If he has a good reason to defend Thunda, he can bring it up with me. ToraenTheJanitorToraenSig2.png 18:51, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
Chaos thrives on Drama. Besides it was funny that he was reverting you. Almost asking to be trolled----X 19:03, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

... Waitwat? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Lol...across wiki discussion----X 19:17, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

check it out looks like crap at first, but if you read through the build it will make sense. i run 3 of these with my imbagon in the ring of fire mish, and the e-denial rom the towers was non-existant, except for me, of course.Bluetapeboy 21:29, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

yo dawg, don't put spaces before text. ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:31, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
yo dawg, Chaos doesn't care. Thunda Sig 2.png Thunda 21:42, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
yo dawg, when did my talk turn into an autism portal? And waitwat, whoru?
yo dawg, I love how the page is deleted before I even have a look. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 08:14, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
yo dawg, the page is here but the original talk is gone. Zyke-Sig.png 08:44, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
yo dawg, I saw it. Quite unnecessary build. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 12:27, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
yo dawg, that build is the shit so shut your filthy dutch mouth yo ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:50, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Turret Ranger

Re: Build:R/any Marksman's Turret. I have greatly expanded the build page to properly show the usage, effectiveness, and some variations of the build. Also, there are new contributions on the talk page from rangers with extensive experience using the build. I would very much appreciate it if you would reevaluate the build based on the expanded comments and your own testing, and then re-rate the build. Please note, that this build is not meant to replace Barrage. There are many vanquishes, quests, missions, and teams where Barrage is not very effective; in most of those cases, a variation Marksman's Turret works wonderfully. I understand the build does not immediately look like much at first glance, because most of my ranger friends have been very skeptical as I introduced it to them over the course of the last year. But, it's a major tool in the ranger arsenal for each one of them now, and I just want to share it with a wider audience. Thanks for your time.--ClavisRa 21:11, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

My vote indicates that you don't need to invest your elite skill on energy management, and this still stands true. If I come to a place where Barrage is useless I go Glass Arrows or something, but not Marksman's Wager. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:42, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
What you lose in bonus damage from Glass Arrows you more than make up for in rate of fire with Turret. GA does not have the energy to spam fast bow attacks, nor energy to supplement that with damage shouts, AScan on every target or other PvE skills. MW can sustain high damage for long periods, and repeately generate spikes every couple of seconds. Give it a try in an area you would normally use GA. And sorry about the wall of text, most people commented on Barrage being the almighty everywhere and I plopped a generic response on your page.--ClavisRa 15:06, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
If I'd really have energy issues I'd bring a superior expertise rune (or whatever is needed for the breakpoint of an even more ridiculous cost) and/or a zealous bow. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:09, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
I'm not solving an energy "problem" as much as creating an energy benefit that can be exploited. Nothing you do with expertise or zealous bow will allow you to paint each target with Asuran Scan and burn 20 energy on two more PvE skills every 6+ seconds (under fast SQ recharge). MW, SQ, PA, and SA create an energy and damage engine you can exploit.--ClavisRa 15:19, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Asuran Scan costs a dazzling 5 energy, YMLaD is an awesome skill but you have no particular reason to bring it on that bar. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 15:36, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
One of the most effective roles for this bar is take down hard targets, like monks. With a well timed YMLAD a monk will not even have an opportunity to heal itself as you spike it down. Also, as shout damage, YMLAD does not slow down my bow attacks. Plus, it recharges fast, and I have the energy pool to spam it, and it's always nice to have an interrupt. Unless most of the mobs cannot be knocked down, YMLAD never leaves this bar.
When you hex every target with Asuran Scan, the energy load adds up fast.--ClavisRa 16:20, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
I comprehended all this by myself, thank you, and took the aforementioned facts into account. Anything else? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 16:25, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Then I don't see your point. You want to use a less powerful bar, and just be judicious about energy use to maximize its efficacy? Re:YMLAD, first you say there's "no particular reason to bring it"; then, after I explain its synergy with the bar, you say "I comprehand all this". --ClavisRa 18:43, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Apparently PvE is srs bsns... But yeah, we understand what you're saying, your point is just invalid. Please stop. :< Ben..Squint 19:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
That's a terrible argument, "Sup, I love this 100000 word piece on why we need to cut down on CO2 emmisions, but, your point is invalid!"... --Frosty Frostcharge.jpg 19:04, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Why is it a terrible argument? He said invalid bullshit so I told him he said invalid bullshit. :> Ben..Squint 19:05, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
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