Pipe vs. Mouseover

Do you (you being whoever reads this) think we should start replacing broken skill links (e.g. [[Seeping Wound]]) with [[gw:Seeping Wound|Seeping Wound]] or <pvxbig>[[Seeping Wound]</pvxbig>? I think the pvxbig style would be a little easier, rather than typing gw: and either c&p the name of the skill or retyping each time, we could paste <pvxbig> on each side of the skill, then in the back remove one of the back end ] and add a / in the second pvxbig tag (so that it becomes <pvxbig>[[Seeping Wound]</pvxbig>). The only problem is, would that slow loading? -(єronħ) no u 20:55, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

I think from the readers point of view the PvXcode would be more useful than a link to GuildWiki. However, two problems: 1) pvxbig introduces linebreaks, at least for the first skill in a paragraph. I guess we'd have to wait for GCardinal to code something like pvxsmall in order to have Mouseover-enabled skill names in running text. 2) It looks like a link, so it should be a link (in addition to the mouseover function). Which means that either the code should provide a link to gw automatically or it should be possible to embed it in a link. Again this means waiting for GCardinal to rise from RealVettingCodingLimbo. --Hhhippo 21:08, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
grr, I really don't wanna sit around, but I'd rather be making links into pvx mouseover than gw: redirects. -(єronħ) no u 21:12, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
We should really link skill images to G Wiki... just my opinion though. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:54, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
Yea, it's annoying seeing someone put up a minibuild, then not being able to mouseover or click the skill to follow a link. -(єronħ) no u 22:22, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
Are we talking about images or names here? Btw: Eronth, you are red! Someone should create you ;-) --Hhhippo 22:26, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
Images, and I went to specify mini builds.
Seeping Wound Dash optional Critical Strike Wild Strike Jagged Strike optional Shadow Refuge
If you click on the skill's image you go to the image, not the skill. -(єronħ) no u 22:35, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

Just a note, if you type in [[gw:Random page name|]] you get [[gw:Random page name|Random page name]]. Very easy to fix links. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 02:57, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Tight, didn't know that. -(єronħ) no u 20:56, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Notifying GCardinal-- (in case you cared.) -(єronħ) no u 19:39, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Another note: There's a workaround for the linebreak problem: <pvxbig>

  • Put the skill (e.g. [[Seeping Wound]) in a bullet list

</pvxbig> That doesn't fix the problem, but can help in many cases. --Hhhippo 20:15, 3 June 2007 (CEST)


It indicates an un-patrolled edit. Edits made by sysops are automatically considered patrolled, so... basically, you're right. -Auron 04:28, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Was about to say that. Sysops can also mark edits patrolled (basically meaning it has the red stamp of approval). -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 05:28, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
Cool, thanks. -(єronħ) no u 06:45, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Help requested

Any help, regarding these three projects would be greatly appreciated.

  • PvX:NoBias: A policy that states newly written Builds should be unbiased, and create Builds that are not limited by the Author in any way.
  • IW Guide: A Guide describing the basic ideas and concepts of an IW Mesmer.
  • Mass Builds Clean-up: (IMPORTANT) A check list of sorts, for reviewing the legitimacy of Tested Builds.

Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 09:40, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Could you get on MSN in a few minutes? I need someone to talk to about the copyvio's. Thanks! Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:06, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

Well, you sent that a while ago, but if you still need someone I'm about to get on. ‽-(єronħ) no u 03:58, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
I'm still on ;P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:01, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

Can't We All Get Along

I wrote something, and I hope you will read. CWAGA is a project started by me, and maintained by me today. Please share. Bluemilkman 19:14, 6 June 2007 (CEST)


Thanks for your advice, I don't take constructive critism or advice from decent people as attacks so you are fine ;) Hope my 'reply' is less 'attackified' xP ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image.JPG (talk)(contributions) 17:19, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

lol, I make words up on the spot all the time. I figure, "Hey, they get the point just fine." It doesn't really matter if my words are real or not (unless I'm filling out an application or something.) ‽-(єяønħ) no u 17:23, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Too true, but I get you fine ^^ ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image.JPG (talk)(contributions) 18:03, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Oh yeah, can you check my GftE build please? I want your opinion on what I have so far. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image.JPG (talk)(contributions) 18:20, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

The build or team builds? ‽-(єяønħ) no u 18:25, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
I'm gonna assume team cause i see no single build. ‽-(єяønħ) no u 18:27, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
Yeah, it's a team build stub. Should be here: Build:Team_-_GftE Fortress ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image.JPG (talk)(contributions) 18:29, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Oh, I didn't realize those were there. You can fix them if you want, but if you could also tell me how to do it for future reference, that'd be great. Thanks. Bluemilkman 06:11, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

___of the day

You should post something about it on the main page. ~~ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 07:03, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

I would love too, but it's a little un-PvXwiki related so I'm not sure if I'm allowed to. Sorry bout delayed responce, my internet died early this morning. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 11:06, 18 June 2007 (EDT)


Please check it out Help needed. Thx :)

rfa's and clutter on the policy page

[1] is meh. Check the talk page, all replies to comments go there, so people don't have to wade through pages of arguments on the RfA to get a general idea of who supports and who doesn't. -Auron 03:20, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

...and sign your comments. -Auron 03:24, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Beat me to the reverts

Thanks, we caught it at the same time. Was I a litte harsh? I tend to just give anyone who obviously vandalizes a reflexive temporary ban that can become permanent if they come back and do it again. Shireensysop 06:31, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

I caught it right as I was leaving, and I'd never banned anyone before. I figured if I gave a warning, the next person to catch it would ban, that's why I didn't. Now, to answer your question as to "was it too harsh", I say no, banned 1 day per build vandalled sounds fair to me. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 13:29, 20 June 2007 (EDT)


For whatever(everything, actually).kindly add your signature at my talkpage on your comment =) BaineTheBotter 17:27, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Whers the link for the delete template pages?

I am wanting to put quick links for the redirects and delete template pages on my user page. Know where I can find em? Shireensysop 17:32, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

User:Defiant Elements. Scroll down a bit, and you have every page you ever flippin wanted. Those are what your asking for, correct? ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 17:34, 20 June 2007 (EDT)


Can u tell me if we are supposed to upload some builds or not? and what are the tags and how can i add them? Kastore 04:10, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

You can upload builds, and tags would be like putting {{build-stub}} on the top of your page. Right now our rating system isn't implimented, so wait a short while for that to appear. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 04:13, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
Thx for helping. so the only thing we are doing right now is what? creating categories? Kastore 04:24, 21 June 2007 (EDT)
And testing the sorting, basically it's all tests. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 05:07, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

hey there

pssst ... as long as you're moving builds to correct naming, could you take a look at this list? Only a couple more! -- 06:09, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks! -- 06:17, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

User Ratings

I say go ahead. The system allready has a default safeguard in place to allow fro removal of rediculous votes. It should still apply to the author. Though a stipulation should be that at least 2 or 3 other votes must be made prior to the authors vote to allow him to see a possible alternative perspective before he rates his own build. Shireensysop 07:27, 30 June 2007 (CEST)

Did we ever get a verdict on whether users are allowed to self rate? Shireensysop 10:04, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

DE suggested a temporary compromise here – HHHIPPOsysop› 10:39, 1 July 2007 (CEST)
Already done Hhhippo ;). Well, night m8. Ttyl. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 10:42, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Build:A/any Fox's Chain Promise

Im placing delete tags on abandoned stubs and I noticed you started this one not to long ago. Your call, keep or nuke. Shireensysop 05:28, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I'm gonna move it to my userspace then delete. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 05:39, 3 July 2007 (CEST)


Hello, your userbox thing is screwed, the shadow sanctuary thing, just a note. —SigmA 23:06, 8 July 2007 (CEST)

Ya, I noticed... I don't wanna load any skill pictures until we have the skill in the system.. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 01:31, 9 July 2007 (CEST)
If you want, you can load up the images. Not sure how long it will be til G Shack updates their bbcode. Just leave me the links for'em on my talk page, and I'll delete them when we get teh update :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:58, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Ban him. He's impersonating you. ~~ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 17:27, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

GJ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (talk · contributions)

Hey, mind giving my build a rating? If we dont rate until it gets to testing then I'd appreciate it. Or if you were waiting to try out the superior rune, then thats cool too. --Skimp 18:47, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Ya, we have to wait for it to go into testing before we rate. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 18:50, 9 July 2007 (CEST)
Lol, I'm dumb. 00:09, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
k. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 20:10, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Regarding my rating on your Seeping Wound Build

You wanted an explanation for my rating on your Seeping Wound build, well here it is:

I have tried many seeping wound skill bars, one very similar to the one you have posted, the same attack combo with BoA (Before it was nerfed) thrown into it. The bar sucked, very badly. The old Guild Wiki had many many Seeping Wound builds posted into it, all of which sucked, and why? Because Seeping Wound is an awful elite. You gain an extra -3 Degen, this maxes the degen from your combo from 7 to 10, but at what cost? Your elite slot. Siphon Speed has the same cost, a lower recharge, and doubles as a snare/speed boost to you.

Every degen pip is -2 HP per second, so you gave up your elite slot for a whole


You needs another one, you is on 41 kb. -6 Hp per second. When you could be using elites such as Shadow Prison, Moebius Strike, Beguiling Haze, or Shroud of Silence, for MUCH better results. --Hikari 19:22, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

What elite would you suggest? ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 20:13, 9 July 2007 (CEST)
Shadow Prison, but that would make it a clone of a build we already have. --Hikari 20:01, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
Why that? Slow recharge and makes you only chain once every couple seconds. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 20:00, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
Acts as both Shadow Step and Snare. Fastest rec in the game actually :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:04, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
Seeping wound build actually works pretty well... ~~ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 20:05, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
Thank you, I'm not saying it's the master build, but I really doubt people even fully considered the build. Much less tested it. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 20:11, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
Btw, if you think its decent, vote that way. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 20:32, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

___ of the day

not my favorite color, but I don't mind it :P Given the choice I'd put in a blue :D

Ill swap you. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 23:36, 9 July 2007 (CEST)
Perfect :D--Sneakysmith12 06:25, 10 July 2007 (CEST)


User:Bluemilkman/Pvxguild Can you look at this for me? Thanks. Bluemilkman 15:58, 14 July 2007 (CEST)


Thank you Eronth for guarding my user page... ~~ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 23:58, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

I was waiting for the guy to do something else before threatening them, but they just vanished. Musta been a driveby. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 00:00, 15 July 2007 (CEST)
Glad to see you are using my template. I made a category, at Category:User:Frvwfr2/Template:Stats users. ~~ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 05:03, 15 July 2007 (CEST)
I changed it by the way... Added some more stuff to it. Anytime I change it I'll let you know, ok? ~~ User:Frvwfr2 frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 02:04, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
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