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::::Technically, aren't you the one trolling right now? <span style="cursor:help;font:8pt 'Verdana';font-weight:100;">'''···'''&nbsp;''[[User_talk:Daññy|<span style="font-weight:100;"><span style="color: #68838B;">Danny&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #355058;">So</span>&nbsp;<span style="color: #021725;">Cute</span></span>]]''</span>&nbsp;[[User:Daññy|<span style="color:#666666;font:100 8pt 'times new roman';">20:44,&nbsp;9&nbsp;March&nbsp;2010&nbsp;(UTC)</span>]]
 
::::Technically, aren't you the one trolling right now? <span style="cursor:help;font:8pt 'Verdana';font-weight:100;">'''···'''&nbsp;''[[User_talk:Daññy|<span style="font-weight:100;"><span style="color: #68838B;">Danny&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #355058;">So</span>&nbsp;<span style="color: #021725;">Cute</span></span>]]''</span>&nbsp;[[User:Daññy|<span style="color:#666666;font:100 8pt 'times new roman';">20:44,&nbsp;9&nbsp;March&nbsp;2010&nbsp;(UTC)</span>]]
 
:::::Technically I think he is baiting.---[[User:Xtreme1ne_talk|<font color="#0000ff"><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua;">'''X'''</span></font>]]<font color="#696969"><small>TREME</small></font> 20:50, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::Technically I think he is baiting.---[[User:Xtreme1ne_talk|<font color="#0000ff"><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua;">'''X'''</span></font>]]<font color="#696969"><small>TREME</small></font> 20:50, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
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::::::technically i think you should all hop on my dick asap --<small>[[User:Angelus...|<font color="DarkBlue">'''Ang'''</font>]][[User talk:Angelus...|<font color="DarkBlue">'''el'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Angelus...|<font color="DarkBlue">'''us''' </font>]]</small> 20:55, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

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Athrun Feya

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Auron

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Bigtymerxg4

Just a quick fyi, me speaking my mind = tyranny? Just wanted a quick clarification. Obviously I'm foul-mouthed, and I type even more swear words. But how, exactly, am I abusing my sysop position? Those links are all fairly recent and even though I'm an admin that mostly lurks, I see nothing wrong with me being a douche. -- Big McStrongfist 19:56, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

The only real issue I see being brought up right now is that Big is mean. If we're going to do this right, someone should at least dig up posts of him trolling Saint. ··· Danny So Cute 20:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
huhu^^ -- Big McStrongfist 20:13, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
The tyranny thing was a joke. --Chaos? -- 20:16, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
Still wondering what did those links prove beyond me being an asshole. -- Big McStrongfist 20:30, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Frosty

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Karate Jesus

I do have problems with KJ as an admin.---XTREME 15:23, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

This page is for discussing the links on the project page. If you have problems with me as an admin, provide links on the project page to examples of me abusing my sysop tools and allow the community to discuss them. This project isn't a popularity contest, so simply saying that you don't like someone is a waste. Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 15:37, 9 March 2010
That might also be exactly why he said it here and not on the project page, since he doesn't really have actual links to show. I think I understand quite well what issues people have with KJ, and I actually don't think he's an admin by nature, but I don't have any issues with him myself. --Chaos? -- 15:41, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
^ and I have a bunch of links...I will post it when/if I am ready. I just wanted to say that I dislike KJ as an admin. Not sure if I want to post links yet or not.---XTREME 19:22, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
I had the courage and opposed the tyranny of Big, you need to do the same thing and listen to your heart! --Chaos? -- 19:35, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
It is a review, so feel free to add whatever you like. Even if no action is taken to demote me, I could use a little constructive criticism on how I'm doing around here (besides what Auron tells me). Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 19:54, 9 March 2010
KJ you are a problem. You do more good than bad though. Just cause you baited me into a 1RV that I didn't fall for cause I didn't want to get banned for it cause it wasn't all that important. I do think you do a lot of good here but you have your days is all. I would like to see a more neutral outlook....again this is imo.---XTREME 20:32, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I don't remember what you're talking about. Could you link me? I'm working on some of our missing templates and PS is not cooperating, atm :/ Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:37, 9 March 2010
If you aren't too busy this should refresh your memory. And you never banned me.---XTREME 20:44, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, the 55 raptor farming thing? I wasn't trying to bait you into breaking policy. I honestly just thought that 55's couldn't raptor farm because of the interrupts (or at least, I assumed it would be pretty hard). Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 20:50, 9 March 2010
And it is possible I thought maybe others who pinged me in game wanted to know how I did it....or that it is possible. IF I reverted you again I would be breaking policy and ban forth with....hence baiting---XTREME 20:53, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Phenaxkian

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Toraen

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Quick Question

I personally think that problems with admins don't always stem from what they don't do, as much as what they do do. Overlooking trolling or only ever banning people should be noted, so can we write as well as give links? And i've got exams this week, i'll spend some free time looking through contribs when i find it. Gringo 15:39, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Did you mean the other way around? As in some things can't be linked to. --Chaos? -- 15:41, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
I don't see any problem with that. However, you would need to provide links of the actual issues (for example, provide a link to the trolling so that users can check the contribs of the admins at that time). Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 15:40, 9 March 2010
Not banning who you want them to ban isn't a particularly good reason to demote them. It's pretty hard to prove they're ignoring trolling either way - unless they're posting in that section or participating in the trolling themselves, it could easily be said that they were away from the wiki or involved in other projects at the time. I would prefer hard evidence - any sysop that deserves demotion should have plenty of shit linked, not just "he said she said" kind of evidence. -Auron 16:53, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
just a note, I know I've said it before, I'm sure other may have in various places as well: If you see an incident of NPA or (the bad kind of) trolling or anything banable, if you post it on the AN, one of us will do something because it's been brought to our attention. I know I've told you this multiple times =/. ~ PheNaxKian talk 17:05, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
To add a caveat to what Phen just said, when posting on the AN links help. Just saying things like, "Jake has broken policy three times and not been banned" is not exactly helpful. But, as a user, it would really help us if you post those kinds of things on the AN. I'm gone half of most days at work, so I don't catch a lot of the drama as it actually happens. Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 17:28, 9 March 2010
hmm @auron, i understand that proving they are looking the other way is difficult, but can we admit that the admin staff for the most part is halfhearted about banning trolls? it took forever for thunda to be banned, and 100% of his posts were trolls, and now danny is the same way and it's they all look past it. my point was mostly just that a LOT of trolling goes on around here, and almost none of it has consequences, mostly because it has integrated into the culture if pvx (despite the policies), and that is one of the biggest reasons i am unhappy with the admin staff as a whole (inb4 flames, im talking about nonstop trolls [most notably the danny circlejerk who add nothing to the site]). Gringo 20:42, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
Technically, aren't you the one trolling right now? ··· Danny So Cute 20:44, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Technically I think he is baiting.---XTREME 20:50, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
technically i think you should all hop on my dick asap --Angelus 20:55, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
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