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Build Master Noticeboard

Since admins shouldn't really be making removals on votes that require thought into whether a vote needs to be removed, maybe a BN noticeboard could be made. If there is a vote that you feel is wrong, you could raise it on the BM noticeboard for discussion or to raise the attention of a BM. Obviously if a troll vote is made it can still be noted on the AN but for the votes that would require a BM, it could be used. Also means BM's don't have to go searching round RC and RRating to find wrong/bad votes. PvXwiki:Build_Master_noticeboard.--Frosty 13:23, 15 December 2008 (EST)

I believe around the introduction of BMs I suggested such a thing, but for whatever reason we decided not to. For instance, a few weeks back we only had 1 active BM (the others not being able to come on for various reasons). When you look at the amount of requests we get on here, a singal BM couldn't handle it all, so Admins are informed as well, and can remove the ones that are obviously wrong... ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 13:34, 15 December 2008 (EST)
Obviously wrong like "SH only has Adjacent range" or votes like "Cripshot is terrible" not votes that disagree with your opinion on a build. If you want to do that make an RFBM.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig.PNG 13:39, 15 December 2008 (EST)
Obvious fail votes yes I can agree with but then when anything contestable comes up a BM needs to know about it, because admins may and probably don't have the knowledge to decide whether removal is neccesarry. --Frosty 17:24, 15 December 2008 (EST)
Assume they do. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 00:53, 16 December 2008 (EST)
No, You assume they do when they create RFBM and get it. Otherwise you assume they don't.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig.PNG 11:37, 16 December 2008 (EST)
No, you assume they do on the basis that you assume that they have enough self-judgment to be removing votes on issues that they are able to make an informed decision upon. Assume good faith. The moral here: don't be a douche. They're admins for a reason. That includes knowing what they themselves are capable of judging appropriately. If you're going to QQ, do so in the policy page for Admins. — Rapta Rapta Icon1.gif (talk|contribs) 15:47, 16 December 2008 (EST)

Keep it admin. Buildmasters have something better to do then removing trolls. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 14:52, 14 January 2009 (EST)

Build Janitors

Like an admin but with no power to ban/remove votes and all that stuff. It would really help the wiki if a few people would be able to delete all the stupid redirects/welltaged/deletetaged build pages. Obviously would need some work but it means less crap for admins to do so they can get on making new stuff for the wiki, or more time to harass GWshack to fix or fucking outdated skills). Generally a Janitor, I know it would be hard to implement but just giving suggesting to how the wiki could move forward, instead of this current staticness. --Frosty 22:14, 21 December 2008 (EST)

TBH. --GoD Hammer and Sickle.jpg Guild of Deals 22:16, 21 December 2008 (EST)
it doesn't take long to delete crao, i could clear it all in about 30 mins if my internet was running smoothly. I've been looking into ways to make Grace expired easier to sort (at the moment it looks like an AWB, which I'll download and test later on). Making what new things?, just request it and someone will make it most likely (as long as there's a valid reason/need for it)the skills have been updated by GWShack, but the only person who can update them here is Gcard, i've left him a message on his talk page (a while ago), so he'll get round to it when he can. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 06:55, 22 December 2008 (EST)
Why complicate the wiki? — Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M.png 12:13, 24 December 2008 (EST)
Same thoughts here. If you really want this just add the ability to delete pages to BM.--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 12:14, 24 December 2008 (EST)

Supplement to Archive tag

Can we get a supplement to the archive tag so you can see what the category of a build (great/good/other) was before it was archived? as it is the only way to tell is to go check the rating page which is kind of annoying =\--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 12:10, 24 December 2008 (EST)

this, cant make the category variable link to the right category though Cute McMonkey.pngChristmas Tab Rally-kupo! 12:27, 24 December 2008 (EST)
Awesome, that lookms great tab. Is it ready to use or should I continue to use the old archive template for now?--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 12:38, 24 December 2008 (EST)
Keep using the old one, needs an admin to update it though Cute McMonkey.pngChristmas Tab Rally-kupo! 12:43, 24 December 2008 (EST)
Updated, uses tabs idea, but we have to go through and add the extra criteria onto the archived builds. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:40, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

appears to be fixed. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 18:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Main page

Wth happened to teh mainpage, it's all blank, was working fine but not anymore 21:57, 8 January 2009 (EST)

I'm seeing the same thing. Greevar 22:52, 8 January 2009 (EST)
Yeah, it's been like that for about 7 hours now. I'm assuming it'll be through within the next day, but we'll just have to wait and see. --ShazamTheSnake Shazam The Snake.png hissssssssssss 02:09, 9 January 2009 (EST)
There seems to be a mistake somewhere in {{Template:Main Page/Top}}. I've implemented a temporary soluction and notified GCardinal. I don't really have time to look into more detail now, but if any sysop can see the problem they should feel free to fix it. - Misery Is Friendly Misery Dog obaby.gif 03:11, 9 January 2009 (EST)
Better temporary fix, the problem was with the game updates RSS feed. - Misery Is Friendly Misery Dog obaby.gif 05:13, 9 January 2009 (EST)

W/any Eviscerate Warrior (talk · rate)

the rate button directs to a wrong lin (as if you people didn't noticed yet). With my crappy wiki skills i made this but the build page name has to be written with underscored instead of spaced D:

[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=Build:{{{4|W/any_Eviscerate_Warrior}}}&action=rate rate] 

Fox007 User:Fox007 21:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Blocked users editing

I'm pretty sure that I've blocked Napalm, yet he is still able to edit pages. I presume it's the same for other blocked users. ĐONT*SYSOP 23:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Karate Jesus said he's able to edit his own user talk. ---Chaos- 23:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I see. It's probably a Wikia "feature" then. ĐONT*SYSOP 23:19, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar issue

See this please. — TulipVorlax 20:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

So, does it mean PvX admins doesn't care about this problem :


On MediaWiki talk:Monaco-sidebar, i give 3 links that explain why some user dont have the same sidebar menu as most users.
Maybe we're not much of a concern... — TulipVorlax 08:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
See your talk page ;) - working on it. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
resolved. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 23:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Recent Ratings

Not sure if anyone else is getting this or it's just the Opera browser being stupid, but I can't seem to see who gave the ratings, shows up as

  • 22:47 . . W/any Endurance Axe; Rating: 5 (great) . . E:5 U:5 I:5 . .

but I can see vote remove fine though.PVX-Zyke 01:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Pretty sure its like that for everyone. --Drah Drah-Sig1.jpg 02:39, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Fixed, it was something that happened when we moved, TORs fixed it =). ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Build Template icon

The image is currently replaced by Build Template on the tool bar.--Relyk 09:34, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

It's still a signet of capture for me, what browser are you using? - Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 09:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Firefox--Relyk 09:39, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Me too, no idea then. Try clearing your cache. - Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 09:41, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Nope--Relyk 09:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
happens for me too Cute McMonkey.pngTab 09:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Mines working now--Relyk 07:16, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


What the hell is going on with them? My signature, a few skill image icons, and a lot of other pics are just blanking. They haven't been deleted. Wikia error or is this third-party? Jebus.JPG 22:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Nvm, must have been my comp. >.> Jebus.JPG 00:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

New Guide Namespace

Is quite broken in relation to watchlists (at least mine). Articles in Guide: show up as redlinks (even though the articles are there) and I can't remove them from my watchlist. EDIT: Also, the articles are duplicated in the (Main) section of the watchlist editor. Toraen 02:39, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

fixed now. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Display issues with Safari Browser

Well, I recently downloaded the new Safari browser and i like it a lot. However, there seems to be some kind of display issue with PvX. The navigation bar that is supposed to appear on the left hand side of each article is just a blank white area and the links from that are pushed down to the very bottom of the page below the white area. Could be something to do with my computer, but can someone else using safari confirm? Thanks Peter 02:58, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Yea, the sidebar links are getting pushed down below the article body on every page. I'll look into it and see if I can change the css or something to fix it if I have time. Hhhippo might know how to fix it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:44, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Nothing I've tried fixes it. It's entirely possible it's a safari bug. But if anyone else who knows some css wants to try to figure it out, here's a summary of what I tried:
  1. Reducing the width of the article body and/or sidebar just leaves a bigger gap between them.
  2. Changing the white-space:nowrap in the h4, h5, and h6's for .portlet to white-space:normal removes the big section of whitespace, and the sidebar looks normal... except that it's still shoved down below the article.
  3. Changing the border, padding, and margin for .portlet and #pBody did nothing.
I tried more than this, but I don't remember it all. Also, guildwiki, GWW, and wikipedia all look normal in Safari. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:26, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Confirmed, no other wikis seem to be having this issue. Peter 07:53, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
Opera, IE, Firefox, and Chrome all load the wiki fine. I'm guessing it's a rendering issue in Safari. If you want, I could try to write up a CSS that'll fix it for just you that you can put in your monobook. Cedave bad.png  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 20:24, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
If it was a rendering issue would it not an effect on the other wikis? Its not a huge problem by an stretch of the imagination, just a bit inconvenient. I will contact apple and see what they say....Peter 04:26, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, all I can get out of apple is that its not a Safari browser problem.....back to using firefox i go lol. Peter 02:46, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Display Issues with Chrome

Same problem as described above with Safari. [[1]]. Anyone got anything? Sometimes its not that far down, it depends on the page I'm looking at. - McTai Tai Sig Image 3.png 14:31, 2 December 2008

Same but it ends under the red window. Fox007 User:Fox007 14:45, 2 December 2008 (EST)
(EC)Maybe add style="vertical-align:top"? Only Hhhippo or GCardinal can test / fix it though. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 14:47, 2 December 2008 (EST)
For me the nav bar (ie, Recent Changes) starts right at the end of the article. For this page, for example, it's wayyyy down there. Tai sig Image 78.png 14:48, 2 December 2008
(EC)Also the white part is a huge link to the main page. I do not know if that would help though. Fox007 User:Fox007 14:49, 2 December 2008 (EST)
This is exactly the same problem I have with my Safari Browser, it seems to push everything down to the bottom of the articles for some reason, most likely because the advert does not fit in the navigation bar. However, as above, widening this seemed to have no effect. Any coding experts out there? Peter 14:09, 3 December 2008 (EST)
Keep in mind, Chrome is still beta. You'd have to wait until it was production-state for anyone to bother submitting an aesthetic fix. However, it sounds like a browser rendering issue in the way that IE renders things differently than Firefox. It might get fixed by Google, but there's a solid chance you'll have to edit your personal Monobook file. (I'm not entirely sure if this is possible, however. =/) 08:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Vote Wipe Button

Could BM's/Admins possibly get a vote wipe button, where it asks you for the reason and then all the votes get removed for that reason? Helpful for vote wipes if it was a minor change etc. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   18:57, 18 December 2008 (EST)

One semi-related question: should archived builds all be votewiped? I second frv btw. -- Jebuscontests 19:18, 18 December 2008 (EST)
currently, policy suggest we should vote wipe archives, I believe Dont wants to remove that line(looking at the EB talk page). Also ()no offence meant by this) I fail to see what you seconding achieves when you lack access to said tools (or should said tools be implemented). I wouldn't mind a vote wipe button either in any case (though I can leave deleting and restoring). ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 12:04, 19 December 2008 (EST)
nah im just saying its a good idea. -- Jebuscontests 12:28, 19 December 2008 (EST)
On Dont's issues with the vope wipe thing, I removed it. I kinda wrote that part and realized I was being stupid when I wrote the whole vote wipe thing. It already hurt us deeply. --GoD Hammer and Sickle.jpg Guild of Deals 22:22, 21 December 2008 (EST)

Special:ProblemReports and PvXwiki:ProblemReports

Something odd is going on here. First of all, I'm pretty sure that there should be some server side code that auto-inserts a redirect to the Special page corresponding the the problem. Also, for example, PvXwiki:ProblemReports/22501 refuses to redirect. ··· Danny Does Drugs 18:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention, that's a whole new section that our admins might need to monitor, since it's apparently being used and all current "problems" and in pending state. ··· Danny Does Drugs 18:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Redirecting to Special: pages is disabled due to "Redirected from" missing when you use Special:Random. --- Ohaider! -- (contribs) (talk) 18:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
urgh, we need a wikia noticeboard (it's on my to do list). It's a special page, so it can only be fixed by wikia someone should contact them in case I don't. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 18:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
no wait. Why should "PvXwiki:ProblemReports/#####" redirect to a special page? I'm clearly missing your reasoning. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
It should redirect to the corresponding special subpage, since it's obviously using the PvXwiki namespace simply for a talk page. ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Basically, I would assume that PvXwiki:ProblemReports/##### would redirect to Special:ProblemReports/##### to facilitate navigation. ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Amazing multiple voting

Please look at recent ratings. Lightningbolt sig.jpguɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 10:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Here. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 00:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Build talk:Team - SoO Sinway

Prior to my two edits (undoing last edit and reinserting comment) the linked talk page was broken, and would only pop an error message. When looking at the last diff, you could go to "later" diffs, which were all empty edits with the same revision number. It's now editable again, but no matter which revision you edit, it will state you're editing an out-of-date version of the talk page. I don't know if deleting/undeleting will do anything (cannot try it myself), so I figured it might be best put here. --- Ohaider! -- (contribs) (talk) 11:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

yeh, deleting and restoring it fixes it (I mentioned it somewhere on the AN the other day). It seems to be happening a lot recently, so when I get a chance I'll contact Wikia about it (i don't think they really check this page :/). ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, at least the page is working again, I suppose :P --- Ohaider! -- (contribs) (talk) 13:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Category:All working team builds

Bit of a minor one this, but anyway. Some of the redirected builds arent in alphabetical order. E.g., I redirected 2 Man Discordway and 2 Man Necroway from "Two Man.." and only Discordway has changed place. FoW Physicalway, 2 Man Gloom also have the same problem. AthrunAthrun Sig.gifFeya 09:35, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

just do a null edit on the pages in the wrong place (so hit edit and put a space at the end of a line). ~ PheNaxKian talk 10:34, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Watchlist not clearing

I've noticed some entries on my watchlist are not clearing and recognising that I have visited them. An example at the moment is this diff. I've been to that page multiple times since that change was made, but the page keeps returning to bold on my watchlist. This seems to be happening randomly with pages, in some cases that were changed days ago with more recent entries correctly remaining unbolded above. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 13:15, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Uh, and to add to the weirdness, the Admin Noticeboard just removed itself from my watchlist. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 14:11, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
Happens to me all the time too =/ I think the diff's don't remove from the watchlist because that's like viewing the history of the page or something, go figure my logic. Do you mean "clearing" as not vanishing from the list or still staying bold? They should vanish from the list upon commenting on the page. ---Chaos is gay - 14:15, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
Staying bold. Also, I ALWAYS use diffs when I check pages and it has always worked before. Also also, I tried just visiting the page to clear it and it didn't work. Also also aside, making them "vanish" when you edit them is a specific setting in your preferences, you can turn it off if you want to. Misery Cow.pngMisery Says Moo 16:39, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
It's got to do with certain pages. If you watch carefully, particularly with the AN, sometimes it just won't even show up on your watchlist. ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:54, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Build:Mo/any UA Selfless Seed Monk

This keeps showing up in the trial builds section occasionally (but Trial Builds is not included in the categories on the page), and thus Grace Expired. Visiting the page seems to make this problem go away for a really short time. ToraenTheJanitorToraenSig2.png 07:59, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

i've null edited both the build page and category, if it pops up again say so =p. (also GE doesn't always clear straight aaway, it caches and doesn't clear for ages :/) ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:58, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Recently it's been clearing immediately for me. It wasn't doing that when we first moved to Wikia, but I'm not complaining :P. ToraenTheJanitorToraenSig2.png 16:48, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Oh, bump. It's still doing this. Just refreshing the category page and grace expired seems to cause it to switch. I clicked purge server cache on the Trial category, but it still shows up some of the time. ToraenTheJanitorToraenSig2.png 19:27, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
deleted and restore, it will need vetting but hopefully it will solve the issue, bump again if not =p. ~ PheNaxKian talk 00:09, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Some templates become invalid when downloaded

When the template code contains a "+", this "+" is html decoded to a " ", because + is the url escape characer for a space. So a link like "http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:DownloadTemplate?build=OQCjUqnLqSPY+iAAVYiYaYubybA&name=P/any%20Song%20of%20Purification%20Paragon" becomes "http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:DownloadTemplate?build=OQCjUqnLqSPY iAAVYiYaYubybA&name=P/any%20Song%20of%20Purification%20Paragon", which results in a template file with an invalid code. This could be a browser issue with Opera only, or a bug in the DownloadTemplate. See for an example: Build:P/any Song of Purification ParagonTHC4k 23:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Just c/p the code directly from the box. The DL button should be remeoved IMO. Zyke-Sig.png 23:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
It would be usefull to me to save a template with one click. Plus fixing the bug is dead simple ( urlencode the build string in the templates' link ). THC4k 11:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


I think someone broke it. Blank screen, etc. Don't set it to test because preferences is broken too. This is Danny, fyi. And I'm pretty sure it isn't my own CSS because I don't recall doing anything that retarded. 08:47, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and I hope this isn't some "phasing out monobook" bullshit. Wikis aren't supposed to look like MySpace, but that's just my two cents. 08:48, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
If you're using Facebook, disable Ad Block Plus on PvX. That will fix it. Wikia recently added some useless shit for ads and broke half their damn sites. Karate KJ for sig.png Jesus 18:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I'd pretty much rather just not use PvX anymore than to disable the only thing standing between me and the goatse-equivalent of advertising. 02:01, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
I might have a good solution, actually. Just block the class/id of the ads using greasemonkey CSS. It still loads them, thus telling wikia to stop telling adblock to fuck off and loading the rest of the page normally AND without ad-goatse. 02:03, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, just use monobook.css. See my user talk for a full write-up. Daññy 02:10, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
Cheers danny, added to the mediawiki monobook.css so it effects everyone using monobook. ~ PheNaxKian talk 09:55, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
hooray! me whining about something actually led to me doing something that actually affects more people than just me! i feel useful! Daññy 02:02, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

I agree, but also for deleted builds. — Balistic 22:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm a lot late, but given how deleted ratings work that is impossible. ··· Danny So Cute 19:26, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
given that all deleted/none-existent build ratings are one one page, it's not that huge an issue >.>. But in regards to the original suggestion, yes a rating page lock would be nice, when I get chance I'll give Wikia and e-mail. ~ PheNaxKian talk 19:51, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Recent Ratins

Would it be possible to add a talk page link and rate page link to the recent ratings page? Useful for those of us who patrol it and want to see the new vote instantly.----Signature-Liger414.pngThe Liger is looking for a HA guild 20:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

SSL/SOCKS and Ratings

Right now, users surfing the web via UltraSurf, and quite possibly other secure proxy networks, cannot view Ratings pages. When a Ratings page is served to a user behind UltraSurf, an error is thrown.

Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

Now, were this an isolated case, I wouldn't bring it up. It's along the same lines as browser compatability in a lot of aspects. However, Wikia, like many other information sites, is blocked by the Great Firewall of China, therefore automatically excluding any users from that region from participating in vetting or even viewing the ratings. Seeing as most, if not all, other pages are served correctly, this must have to do with an exception in how the ratings page is served.

··· Dannycbf.PNG 16:41, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


Using the search bar will give lots of results that have been moved or deleted, making it rather ineffective at its intended purpose. ToraenTheJanitorToraenSig2.png 13:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

The cache is probably set to a very low update period. Probably to prevent server load. It'd be nice if this could be taken care of, but I'm not holding my breath - I'm sure they don't change these settings for other wikis (unless they're receiving ludicrous amounts of traffic). Daññy 22:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
Our Job Queue is at around 370 pages (I imagine that's the Archived builds considering we've not done anything else to make it not 0, certinaly not that effects 370(+) pages). I don't know what the "jobRunRate" variable is set to, so i can't give a definite "time" as it were (it decreases on page views, not actual time), but by default I believe it does one page per page view (which i don't think it will be for us because we rarely have a job queue), but you can set it to run less frequently (not sure on the limit, but MW says you can have it set to "1 job run per 100 page views").
tl;dr: give it some time and it'll "fix itself" as it were. ~ PheNaxKian talk 00:33, September 20, 2010 (UTC)