PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard

The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an Administrator. See resolved General Issues here.

Download all builds

Can someone make a thingy for the categories that lets you download every build from that category? (For example, great HA builds. I want to download all the skill templates). I mainly want to do this with all the HA, GvG, and Hero builds. As well as PvE farming. It'd be nice to have all those builds ready ^^ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.204.149.156 (contribs) .

TOC Question

Where is the TOC located? I tried all the combinations I know and can't seem to find it. I would like to try to edit it to fit with my page scheme a bit better. Thanks File:Eagle Globe and Anchor.JPGChoytw Talk Debates 14:23, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm obviously not wanting to modify the file that everyone uses (besides, it's probably protected), but copy it to a page and edit that one. File:Eagle Globe and Anchor.JPGChoytw Talk Debates 14:26, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

(ec)As far as i'm aware TOC is built into mediawiki (i could be wrong here) and thus isn't a tempalte at all.....also moved issue under general issues and made it a sub heading...~PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:29, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Anyone have any further clarification or validation? File:Eagle Globe and Anchor.JPGChoytw Talk Debates 14:44, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

You can probably use your monobook.css to change the way it looks, but I don't think there'd be any other way to. If you don't know css, I can probably help you with customizing it some. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:11, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

TOC can be altered with tables (example). ~ ĐONT*TALK 15:15, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks to you both. I'm fairly familiar with CSS so will give it a shot. Don't...most of those were blank but I'll look at them further to see if they'll be of help. File:Eagle Globe and Anchor.JPGChoytw Talk Debates 15:20, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Try, View Source. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 15:22, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Actually, firebug is better if you use firefox. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 16:17, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Very good idea Misery...can't believe I didn't think of it  ;-). Only problem is (and the same problem when I tried using CSS here earlier) is that the code doesn't show up correctly. Do you have to add anything to the edit box in order to get CSS to actually work? Choytw Talk Debates 14:09, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Did you clear your cache? (Ctrl + f5 on IE and firefox). ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 00:11, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

According to a post here, Don't said the coding used to make ToCs can only be implemented by Admins...is this correct? Choytw Talk Debates 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Bump to get an answer Choytw ~~ Talk+ 12:54, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Bump read above for question please Choytw ~~ Talk+ 15:04, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

• Please don't bump every few hours.
• From Wikipedia: Notice: NavFrame have been deprecated in favor of collapsible tables since September 2007.
• I added collapsible tables to PvX. Remember to clear your browser's cache when trying it out.
  – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 15:55, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

IRC

"Topic for #pvx is “The PvX Builds Wiki channel: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/?title=Main_Page | it throws a boner at them

Topic for #pvx was set by Gigenet.IL.US.GameSurge.net on 18 June 2008 00:41:31" ¬ Klumpeet 15:23{GMT}22-06-MMVIII

I'm not sure whether this was the right place to bring this up, but whatever. ¬ Klumpeet 15:24{GMT}22-06-MMVIII

i'm not seeing a problem here....elaborate plz. ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 11:35, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

The bit where it says 'it throws a boner at them' ¬ Klumpeet 15:36{GMT}22-06-MMVIII

Whenever I've been on there it's had a stupid topic. Stupid topics are one of the main reasons to have an IRC channel. --Tab Moo 12:04, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

I don't know that it's one of the main reasons, but, either way, it's not an issue. *Defiant Elements* +talk 09:16, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

ISnowBunnyI (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Troll. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 11:30, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Warned. *Defiant Elements* +talk 12:48, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

So, everyone who will troll now will be warned/banned? Hawt. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 14:24, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

This is not a talk page actually, but yes i think so, this user isnt different from other (trolls), nobody is priveleged (dunno how to spell this) --Super Igor *ninja!!* 14:44, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Rusty RfBM

He's gone inactive since April. Should we close this one? --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:17, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Skakid9090 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Some wird asshatedry towards me, goes around the site spamming nasty stuff about my posts, probably wants me to freak out and get banned again thats wrong. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 15:06, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

...why were you unbanned again? — Skakid 15:07, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

That's harsh lol Choytw ~~ Talk+ 15:12, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

As this is a noticeboard and not a talk page, please refrain from discussing! ¬ Klumpeet 19:13{GMT}25-06-MMVIII

Oh and you spelled it wrong =) — Skakid 15:17, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

This user is asshatedry to everybody. I suggest staying out of his way igor. The Admins gave him chances....--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 12:00, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Crossfirexiv (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Just back from a double ban and still thinks it's a good idea to be spiteful and obnoxious to people - PANIC! sexiness! 13:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Its all in good humor :) I secretly love tab. Ask him!!--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 13:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Pwneroffaces (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

May want to watch this individual. Choytw ~~ Talk+ 16:36, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Warned. ~ ĐONT*TALK 07:06, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

76.242.90.41 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

vandalism and general idiocy No 19:39, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Banned for a week. Didn't see the other pages, so if he continues perma it... ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:15, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

66.245.93.238 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

FlamingMetroid. See here --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:44, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Blocked. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:05, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Metroid was perma'd, so shouldn't the proxy be too? Anyway, most proxies are perma'd anyway. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 21:06, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

IP's shouldn't really be permabanned, since they could be reassigned etc. etc. Also, it looks like he has a dynamic IP, since this one is pretty similar to the one that shows up when I checkuser him. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:07, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Alright, just wondering. Nothing like flexing the ban hammer fingers now and then. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 21:08, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Skakid9090 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Removes my comments here, I was sure that guy would take stupidity further, and he did, there was already a warning by Wizardboy not to remove any of my comments no matter the content. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 19:56, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Do you feel the need to comment on everything you see in RC? Shut the fuck up already, the wiki was functioning well before you were unbanned for no reason, now the apparent amount of complete stupidity is really bringing this place down. — Skakid 20:21, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

...Telling someone to shut the fuck up on the AN isn't the wisest decision in the book. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:22, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Igor, just to make this clear, you don't have any sort of magical protection. That applied when people were going around removing every one of your comments from random talk pages.

Skakid, avoid removing other users' comments. It's Rapta's talk page, let him decide if it's meaningless spam worth removing. And trolling Igor certainly won't help improve the situation. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:21, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

I doubt anyone would find "ups" meaningful. The AN is not your playground, User:Super Igor. Don't treat it as such and use some common sense when you're pressing that "Save page" button (or better yet, the "edit" tab at the top. If you don't make retarded edits, then you won't have to deal with people removing that retarded comment. That way, everyone wins. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 00:10, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Well, reatrded joke welcome template from grinch that wasnt even working first gets an ups reply, u know this pvx wiki humor, Im not saying that i have some kind of magical protection but never less removing any comments that arent actually disruptive (blanking pages, messing with wikicode, spam etc.) shouldnt be removed, and also that barrage at mpa at me with no appropriate reason, you are causing disruption yourself this way. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 07:50, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

"I doubt anyone would find "ups" meaningful." Might wanna ban...oh...half the active users? Gogey 08:31, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Again, no matter the content if the comment is not disrutpive and it wasnt it should not be removed, not to mention that the whole topic was a joke. Stop trolling, stop being silly, dont violate npa all the time it just wont do any good to you Skakid and it wont do any good to the site either. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 09:48, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Wammo Lord (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Posting joke builds and putting great tags on them is bad afaik--Goldenstar 00:08, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Stuck a trial tag on it after i removed the great-tested one--Goldenstar 00:13, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Explained him why not to use tags on userspace. ~ ĐONT*TALK 07:06, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

A/R Promise Assassin PvE (talk · rate)

4th mention. I need a judgment please. -Shen 07:41, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Can you say the name? 4th is kinda ambiguous if I haven't voted, or yours shows it above/below where you think it is. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:45, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

He means this is the fourth time he brought this issue up, but it's been rather ignored. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:54, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I can't really say too much about it, I've never used a sin in PvE before. --Tab Moo 15:05, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

But PvE is for pros. Loads harder than silly GvG! Anyway, just so I can weigh in, I think it's fine where it is. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 15:07, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, my instinct would be that acceptable is OK, but I seem to remember the discussion over it being comparing it to a similar build, which is where I can't really help. --Tab Moo 15:08, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I don't really see the big issue, it's proven to work well in PvE. Selket Shadowdancer 15:24, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

My wammo without a bar also well works in pve. Can I add that too? —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:27, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

In no way can you say Tab has given a final judgment. I say this because he would have "decide[d] on the appropriate course of action" as per PvX:APPEAL, which, as I'm garnering, isn't the case. Of course, if Tab doesn't agree, then the decision is final. -Shen 22:17, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

A/D_Grenth's_Grasp_Assassin (talk · rate)

Tifa Yawa.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 15:31, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

It has been successfully Tab Smashed. --Tab Moo 15:33, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

P/W Focused PvE Paragon (talk · rate)

Kelvin Greyheart, Voidwalker, BadByBirth, Yamagawa. Works everywhere deserves nothing else than a 5-5-5. Godbox 16:08, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

I removed all of those 5 minutes ago. Ups. --Tab Moo 16:10, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

Doesn't work "everywhere". Most places? Yes. But not "everywhere". Selket Shadowdancer 21:26, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

It works everywhere. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:28, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - AB CwD Capping team (talk · rate)

Changed quite a bit, wondering if it warrants placement into testing again. ~ Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 21:16, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

N/Rt WoD Healer (talk · rate)

Some guy that begins with an M said that it isn't innovative as in original and is keeping it out of great by one point.--The Gates Assassin 01:06, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Assassin (Costume Brawl build) (talk · rate)

Adslahnit's vote. The build is for "data" purposes, not actually rating/vetting purposes. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:00, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 10:18, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - HA ImbaWay (talk · rate)

Don't agree with Snake's vote, reasons: Hexway is rarely ran, can't remember last time I actually went against it. Sig of Humility > RC. DA...havn't seen one of those in god knows how long. Warmonger's can interupt the ghostly, not perm like PD though I guess. This isn't Derv smite...Also hoping I'm posting this right :X Sorry If I'm not ^^ -- Nature 22:18, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Got it. --Tab Moo 04:22, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Goldens vote, Mantra of Inscription nerf didn't make it lose a lot of pressure, it can be kept up like 90% of the time. Splinter Weapon also didn't make it lose lot of pressure, it can even still be used i nit. And this isn't Dervsmite...... -- Nature 14:33, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

D/A VoS Solo Capper (talk · rate)

Lann's vote because watchful intervention is not counter productive since it will not put you out of 50% health when used. Frosty's vote because there are like 5 other skills in variants that you could take for a speed boost instead. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 07:16, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Deadly Arts Spike Sin (talk · rate)

Xiay's vote. /FrosTalk\ 07:26, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

As well as every vote pertaining to AB. Anything works in AB. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:52, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

W/any Bull's Thrust (talk · rate)

Any votes below "good" are flawed. — Skakid 14:01, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 14:35, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - Ursan Avatar (talk · rate)

Could you please remove Guild of Deals Vote & Goldenstar's vote. They based his vote on not being able to keep up Ursan which the build does better than any other Ursan Team build and that it would be impossible to organize. Enchants ending from the Pious Order of the Vampire plus mantras for each area and to top it off zealous weapons. Thats as good as you are going to get for Ursans E Management. So I dont know what chunk there is for him to vote it so poorly. Thanks EoD Itzl 17:18, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

If you're good with Ursan, than you don't need all this extra survivability crap. It's way too chunky to compared with the standard, not to mention impossible to organize. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:52, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

...why? — Skakid 19:16, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Why not have extra survivability or extra damage? If you red the description then you would know what you just said is invalid to the argument of the build."his should generally be USED BY GROUPS who are at least slightly organized, such as GUILDS, FRIENDS, or ORGANIZED PUBS." So it isn't impossible to organize, maybe for random groups yes, but guilds and friends far from it. Anyways this isn't a discussion page for this build so quit trying to stir up more crap for the mods to clean up besides your votes. EoD Itzl 21:13, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

E/Mo 55 SF Elementalist (talk · rate)

Methza's Vote: Don't like this build... This is not a reason.--RELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 20:10, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 06:51, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - HA Necro Hex Pressure (talk · rate)

Goldenstar Jebus and Watch. Nothing there should be under a 4 imo. Especially inno.-- Nature 09:44, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

See talk page for why -- Nature 10:14, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Got Goldenstar's. --Tab Moo 10:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

E/Rt VwK Earth (talk · rate)

Lann's vote suggests heavy enchantment removal in PvE. If so, explain 55 monks :)--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 15:15, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Frvwfr2 got it.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 16:15, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

It's still there, actually. ~ Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 23:48, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

He revoted.... Im pretty sure hes still invalid. 55 monks fave the same problems aswell, only this is better with interruption because it doesnt rely on PS, which can be interrupted due to its frequent usage. I promise i wont discuss anymore so plz dont flame me.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 23:52, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

An admin needs to go by the rating page and let most of the voters know that innovation does not mean what they think it does (or as it should mean and was probably originally intended to mean) -- One dude gave a four because, "has been done before on this wiki before the stacking armor nerf so 4 for innovation". Choytw ~~ Talk+ 09:02, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

that was me, and it was when 'innovation' meant innovation and not the sort of vaguely defined meta-ness thing that it is now. either way, the rating is justified.--Reason.decrystallized 09:06, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

N/A HM Raptor Farmer (talk · rate)

Kongtorp is wrong. not 0-0-0.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 10:45, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

There is no way for you to know he is wrong since youve never tested it. In all likelyhood, he is right. See the talk page for my reasoning. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:11, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Me/E AoE Echo (talk · rate)

Goldenstar's vote. Completely differnet between this build and the one he's sampling. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:53, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes the one I linked to does mkore damage by using its skills more often and it doesn't waste its elite. It's better.--Goldenstar 16:55, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Zomg double ec, here... I was about to post that, indeed, build doesnt deserve such bad vote and there is no connection between it and the build he was sampling. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 16:56, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

First, this isn't a discussion page... What ever happened to that red floaty thing? Second, it's like comparing Shock Axe to Earth Shaker: you don't. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:57, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

One uses the elite to recharge skills faster, while the other one uses the elite to make a copy and use it more often. What's the issue here? — Rapta (talk|contribs) 16:58, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Because they both make copies to do more damage, the echo one just wastes its elite to do and can't do damage as often. I voted low because it's not as effective. I really don't see the problem.--Goldenstar 17:00, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

There you go then, that's fine enough a reason for me. A BM can look over this, or whatever, if another opinion is desired. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:14, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Well how come ether nightmare, an yber aoe degen hex started to fail? I mean getting the alligience title up is not hard, and as for echo its a good and cheap way to have 2 copies of anything. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:31, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

It's still only around 60 to 70 AoE damage at a moderate rank. And you use your entire bar to cast it semi-frequently. It's the same with the other build. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:35, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Dude count it from maxed point of view, maxing ss rank is easy, fast and no reason you wouldnt if ur about to use such build, so its 200 aoe damage very fast + clums + eye, good imo. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:37, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Ok, so you go max your Norn, Asura, Dwarf, Ebon, Sunspear, Lightbringer, and Allegiance titles, ok? Ok then. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:39, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

If you're not thinking CoP is good, then seriously, there's something wrong. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:40, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

CoP is crappy compared to a lot of things. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:42, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

(EC)First of all agrreed with god, if you dont like cop you are wrong, second of all rapta calm down please, and thirdly go to my userspace and look at it closely, all alligiance ranks maxed except luxon that I will be maxing after getting leg cart and vanq, trust me, it took me roughly 8-12 hours of title work to get max vose titles so it is not hard, it is not slow. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:43, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Farming PvE titles is Zzzzz. And this conversation is becoming retarded. Start this on your talk page with Guild and you can discuss your love of Cry of Pain there. The initial issue was resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:46, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Pretty sure builds aren't based/voted on how easy, hard, boring (etc) skills are to obtain for the build. I've had that thrown in my face enough times so I see no reason why it shouldn't apply to everyone else. Selket Shadowdancer 20:29, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Ups. Honestly, you get like 7-8 Sunspear just by getting halfway through the game, and Kurzick/Luxon faction is easily obtained through either FFF or your now-and-then AB'ing. You might as well vote down the Imbagon because "you can't get high enough ranks for it" --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:38, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Well said! Selket Shadowdancer 12:01, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Indeed. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 12:11, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Mo/R Dwarven Deliverance (talk · rate)

Tch's and GoD's votes, neither seem to understand the concept of the build, that it wont run out of enrgy and can spam party-wide heals constantly as opposed to hp spammer that is likely to drain its enrgy pretty fast spamming hp as mindlessly as this build spams lod and the dublicates, Tch's vote I dont even understand, flawed, how come? --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:10, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

I deleted mine. Didn't want to be a prick. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:11, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Good lad, your vote wasnt actually as bad compared to Tch's becuase I dont get what he meant to say >.>; --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:18, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Temple Strike Assassin (talk · rate)

LAnn's vote. Apparently 20s is a long recharge but he forgot SP's 25 recharge.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 01:12, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

N/A Solo Boss Farmer (talk · rate)

Lann suggests that this cannot kill a boss. Apparently he didn'y try it either ><. See talkpage and the pic GoD posted. His vote suggests they will outheal which isnt true bc the user carries D-dagger.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 01:27, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

A/W Critical Hammer Striker (talk · rate)

Moved back to Trial, so vote wipe pl0x (plus none of the votes actually gave a real reason). /FrosTalk\ 06:08, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. ~ ĐONT*TALK 08:05, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Reverting

Somehow when you press undo at revert; you get the old version up, which pretty much makes reverting annoing. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 05:17, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

I'm not sure I get what you mean. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 07:56, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

You have to go through looking at the old version first, and cant just undo it fast. Admins have rollback to do it quickly, but regular users have a "short, 6 step process!" to undo. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:07, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Basicly normal users can only "undo" the last edit, to undo anything more than that you have to find the last decent version of the page then copy and paste. ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 10:56, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

or just click edit on that version & save it over the current revision. - PANIC! sexiness! 12:28, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Exactly. Doesn't seem that bad to me. The only problem is the engine doesn't suggest a summary this way, but usually a shorter notice is enough there anyway. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:09, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Restoring Votes

The reason for restoring votes never shows up. -Shen 11:29, 18 February 2008 (EST)

I'd suppose that's not a bug, you just don't have space to show. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:48, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Right. We don't store the full history of votes, that is edits, removals and restores. At the moment only the last version is kept in the database. I think it would look confusing to have a reason for a restore with a vote, but no sign of when and why and by whom it was removed in the first place. The restoring reason is just a dummy entry at the moment. To implement a full history is on the long-term to do list :-) – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:36, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Show/Hide

Back in the resolved general coding issues, I mentioned div-frames. They were able to shown or hidden at will. Here is the extension, I think. [1] —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 10:43, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Edit: it definitely is. I tested it on my personal wiki. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 16:59, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Will have a look. I'm waiting for gc to reactivate the test server, would like to try it there first. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:38, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Ratings

Shows server time, does not change based on Preferences. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:36, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Will look at it when test server is back up. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:39, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Personal monobook.js/.css

Could we please activate this? Lord Belar 18:03, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

I activated it. Note that according to the MediaWiki manual, it may increase security risk to users and server load. If we encounter problems there, we might have to de-activate it again. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 14:03, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Thanks. The .js is working fine (Too well, in fact. :P), but the .css doesn't seem to to be on. Lord Belar 20:07, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Hmm, I hoped they would both work just by activating them in the settings. Seems I have to dig a bit deeper for the css. I'll put it on the ToDo list, but I'm afraid it's not top priority. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 07:17, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

Never mind, I just forgot to clear my cache. :P Lord Belar 14:44, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

Interwiki links to GuildWIki

Still point to the gw.gamewikis address instead of guildwars.wikia.com, so any time you click one it has to redirect you. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 11:34, 20 April 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:05, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Rollback

When you remove a vote, the button says "Rollback." I think it should say "Remove." Not a big thing, but just annoying. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:04, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:15, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Removal and Bans

When a BM/admin is banned, it can still remove and restore votes. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:04, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Thought that was true of Admins as well....?~PheNaxKian (T/c) 15:08, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Better? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:09, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

If admins will be banned, it´s 95% sure their adminship will be rejected(same for BM i'd suppose). They should keep themselves to the rules, otherwise they're not a good BM/Admin. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 16:09, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

In addition to this, banned users can still vote. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   06:31, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Sort Function

This is a perfect example of this function. Not sure what we could use it for, but we could find some use... Sort builds by Effect/Univ/Inno maybe? If we ever get that function. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Special:UserRatings

Can we get a way to check another users ratings, rather than just our own? Helps out in case of socks that were discovered late, such as Crossfire+Woof. I would think it would be fairly easy to code. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:14, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Maybe a BM/Admin restricted checkuser style thing, but with votes instead of edits? --Tab Moo 11:59, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

That would be great... But I don't see why not allow everyone to see it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:07, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I just guessed it would be easy to add as an extra option on checkuser. --Tab Moo 15:10, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Meh, I actually think it would work kinda like Contributions atm... But you type in whoevers name. Not a part of checkuser. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:11, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I actually didn't think of that <_< --Tab Moo 15:12, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I think the original idea as so you could see everyone's, and it's beign worked, i think ti was jsut Hippo managed to get this done so he amde it available, iirc it's on his to do list (could eb wrong). ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 09:06, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Is on the list, have to wait for test server.– HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 08:19, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

When a build is moved to user space...

It keeps the votes on it. Is there a way to check its namespace, and if it isn't the Build: space, it wipes the votes? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:17, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I tested this, and basically, when a build with votes is moved to userspace (or probably anywhere outside of the Build: namespace), the ratings still show on recentratings and userratings, but the links to the page don't work (when I moved it to User:Wizardboy777/Test, the links on recentratings and userratings went to Build:Wizardboy777/Test), there's no rate tab on the page and &action=rate doesn't work (I'm assuming it's set up to only work in the Build: namespace). ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:40, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I did more testing, and if one creates the page Build:Wizardboy777/Test while User:Wizardboy777/Test (the one with the rating) still exists, recentratings will link to the first one, but that one won't have any votes. Also, I think auto-wiping votes when moved out of the Build: namespace would be a bad idea. Normal users would be able to wipe votes. Just have recentratings and userratings not display ratings for pages not in the Build: namespace. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:53, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Good point. Thats a good idea. Maybe a category "Ratings on builds in non-build space." ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:00, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

I changed recentratings and userratings. Do we really need that 'category'? (More like a special page, ratings can't be in categories since they are no pages.) – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 08:23, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Editing outdated versions of pages

I think I keep doing this unintentionally and removing comments from talk pages. I think this is probably because the warning looks exactly the same as the kbs warning. Any chance this warning could be made like bigger and inside a red box or something to prevent people from doing this unintentionally? - isery -TALK 05:48, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

It is red now. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 06:57, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Checkuser

When trying to get IPs for a user, I'm occasionally getting this error message: Fatal error: Call to undefined method IP::isipaddress() in /var/www/w/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php on line 532. --Tab Moo 06:31, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Bet it was to check me out. EXteel 06:33, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

See Gcardinal's talk. This is in two different places on there. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:46, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Downloading skill templates

Would it be possible to allow users to specify a default location in preferences for skill templates to be downloaded to? It's somewhat annoying to have to go through and find c:\program files\guild wars\templates\skills every time I want to download one. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:52, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

You could create a shortcut to the folder on your desktop, then it's just a matter of dragging it onto the shortcut. Still, it'd be a nice feature to have. --Mafaraxas (talk • contribs) 23:57, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Where to save is up to your browser, I'm not sure if the server can override that. Maybe with an absolute path. Anyway, it means adding an entry to the preferences, which means all the old ones have to be converted to the new structure etc. which means some work and the need for a test server. I'll put it on the list but don't expect it too soon. For the moment I'd also suggest to use a shortcut. – HHHIPPO; ‹sysop› 10:49, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

How come every time I download a code and save it in my templates folder, it always says it's invalid in Guild Wars? — ク Eloc 貢 12:04, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think right now, any template with a '+' in the code is invalid because the + is the URL escape character for a space or something like that. You can go into the folder they're stored in and fix them manually. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Category:Untested testing AB builds

For some reason there is a ritualist build under the "E" section. I'm not sure if it is just me though...I tried bypassing my browser's cache but that didn't fix it, so I'm thinking it might be a slight coding error of some sort. -- Come visitmy grass shack! 11:57, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

WHen it got moved it broke. So i deleted it and restored, and it's fine now. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:01, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Just doing a null edit (hit edit, hit save without changing anything, doesn't show up on RC or history or anything) fixes those. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:58, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Vertical-align for ratings

When a vote has a very long description, Overall, Effectiveness, Universality and Innovation tend to stick to the bottom instead of being in the same line as ratings. A style="vertical-align: center;" should be able to solve this. ~ ĐONT*TALK 09:48, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

The ratings are set up as a table (see my sandbox for the html used). I don't think adding a vertical-align:center would work, since the problem is that the cells are stretching, not spreading out. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:37, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Indeed. I tried a few things, but it's no good. ~ ĐONT*TALK 18:16, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Special:Statistics

It does not show the total number of pageviews or the job queue length. Dragnmn talk cont 05:35, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

We use squid, so the server never sees the page views. And I'd guess that the job queue is actually 0 :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 10:32, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

HTML Code

Can you not use <a href="blah blah">text</a> here? Since I can't make new sections inside the coding on my page, I'm trying to find alternatives so I can still have a toc. This is seeming to be a dead end as well. Any help is appreciated Choytw ~~ Talk+ 13:31, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

force the ToC.....use {{TOC}} iirc, then do whatever else you were wanting to do.... ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Don't believe question has been answered. Still looking for guidance. Choytw ~~ Talk+ 15:21, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

sorted i belive-check your talk page for details. ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 15:51, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

I was wondering about this. Since I know a decent deal of HTML coding and there's some nice sites that provide HTML web pages (easy copy-paste for a PvX page), I was wondering if there's some kind of convert from HTML to WikiCode. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:07, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

No, you can't use <a>. However, you can use <span id="Header"></span> and then [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Header]]. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.

Dash and Expertise

Expertise doesn't reduce the energy cost of dash. See here. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Expertise isn't meant to reduce energy cost of Dash (see what expertise effects; Ranger skills, attack skills, touch skills and binding rituals). /FrosTalk\ 18:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

That's... wow. They changed it back in October of 2006, and I never noticed XD I still thought it affected all non-spell skills :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

"For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%." Just FYI, from GWW. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

An admin that's two years out of date, you need an update :P /FrosTalk\ 21:18, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

The funny thing is, I probably would have noticed if my suggestion below was implemented :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:31, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Ironic or what ;) /FrosTalk\ 23:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Mouse-over Attribute descriptions

Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? /FrosTalk\ 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Hex Breaker

Build:Team - HB Blackout Spike, in the optional list it says it lasts 65s@10. However, it is actually 55 in game. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:26, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

A lot of skills haven't been updated on PvX since the split between PvP and PvE skills, I'm not sure what PvX is going to do to show the difference between the skills in PvP and PvE. Byakko 02:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Hex breaker isn't a split pve/pvp skill, nor has its duration been changed recently. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 03:34, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Ah, you're right (/doh) I also saw the note about asking about updates above so I guess is best to manually crosscheck wiki's to be sure sorry WB ^^ Byakko 19:20, 22 June 2008 (EDT)