PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard

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The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

Download all builds

Can someone make a thingy for the categories that lets you download every build from that category? (For example, great HA builds. I want to download all the skill templates). I mainly want to do this with all the HA, GvG, and Hero builds. As well as PvE farming. It'd be nice to have all those builds ready ^^ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.204.149.156 (contribs) .

Vote Removal and Perception of Bias

I've seen situations more than once where an admin has nuked a builds rating by removing all votes over a certain score. While I understand the reasoning, it is extremely easy to misinterpret this as bias on the part of admins, especially when they only leave votes that agree with their own. Not sure if this is done, but when people's votes are removed, perhaps find a way to let them know, and let them know why so that they can fix it? Just wanted to bring up this concern, since I've seen more situations resembling this recently, and have actually seen comments indicating that others have also noticed this. --Kalas Silvern 02:28, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

There have been a coupla policy proposals revolving on notifying users when their votes are removed, you might want to check out some of those and see about reviving those discussions. *Defiant Elements* +talk 14:57, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Well I disagree. BMs and Admins are very smart and this site is for 1 purpose only and that is to store builds. Common GW players look here for builds, not to discuss. Only the REALLY dedicated ones make an account and comment build pages.--X14 15:03, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

some people come here just to troll thou Antiarchangel TROLL 17:55, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

As per your explaination crossfire; common gw people are bad. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 10:50, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Exactly. On+ly the+ +rly +l+eet o+nes ar+e cs+mar+++t+++--X14 11:07, 13 May 2008 (EDT)+

Armond (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

[1], not happy with his non-admin, provocative and offensive behaviour, not happy with the asshtedry towards myself and th innapropriately long and unneeded bans. ~Super Igor

Umm, no. You have edited many users comments before, and it is about time you get a trolling ban. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:14, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Pot, kettle, etc. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 15:16, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Like the first time but only because ricky started to bitch around the talk and it didnt make me happy because i dont like him. what else? nobody was reporting me either and the flame generally died, then armond came, trolled and banned me? wth?? also, nobody was getting banned for editing my posts and trolling me in a same way, why do i get banned?? because you dont like me?? what kind of admins you are then?? same goes for the ban extending galore etc. you think you are cooL? no, you are not. /peace, i dont give a damn. ~Super Igor

"nobody was getting banned for editing my posts and trolling me in a same way, why do i get banned??" Oh really? 18:54, 21 April 2008 Wizardboy777 (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "Skakid9090 (contribs)" with an expiry time of 3 days (NPA, 1RV) ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:34, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

9 days > 3 days, and Ska is worse. banning for uber long periods just because of not liking someone is not worth of admin, and Armond just does that. --149.254.200.220 15:36, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

I banned Igor for a longer period of time because his block log showed him as having multiple bans before. If Wizardboy wants to ignore the block log and ban for shorter periods of time, that's up to him. Also influencing my choice of ban length was the fact that Igor didn't seem to have learned from his previous week-long ban, whereas Ska generally cools down after a few days.

Not sure if the latest IP is you, Igor, but the more you evade your ban the longer it gets. I won't feel sorry about banning you for a month if you keep this up (or even a year if you really insist) - next evasion bumps you up to two and a half weeks. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 15:45, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

FYI to admins: Checkuser shows that 149.254.200.220 is Igor. Not extending ban because I said I would next time. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 15:47, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Admin discretion. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 16:21, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Shankdbykyle (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism after being warned. --71.229 16:27, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

D/Me Solo UW Smite (talk · rate)

HookinHeads' vote. - (rĕ'küt ŏv ū'rūk)[snō hwīt tăn] 01:40, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   06:31, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Team - HA Super-KD Thumpway (talk · rate)

Risus's vote says that aegis owns you, 25 energy skill is bad, and earthbind is not in build. Nr/Tranq/OoA > aegis. OoA + EW = good. Eathbind was temporarily removed for soothing, but thats been put back. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:23, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:26, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

A/D Critical Wounder (talk · rate)

Zeecron's. --71.229 03:49, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   06:31, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

A/D Unseen Aura (talk · rate)

I dont see why people give 2s and 3s in Innovation. Its a new idea. Even Zeecron gave a 5 in innovation, although theres a 0 in universality and effectiveness. *Jebus* Is I 16:53, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

That's not waht innovation is. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:15, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

inno= Is it used by anyone. Is it popular. Not is it a new idea. We get many "new ideas" here and they generally suck.--X14

Innovation means both innnovative (as in a new idea) and Meta, it's this contradiction that has caused the discussion on th realvetting talk page, and the suggesttions on what to do with innovation (such as just having a tick box instead was the popular choice iirc) ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 18:13, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Innovation: This criterion describes how new the idea behind this build is. Does it use a new approach for dealing with a known task or even act as a precursor for dealing with a previously unconsidered task? To what extent is it expected to become a prototype for a new class of builds? The idea is pretty new, so i say change some votes. *Jebus* Is I 18:41, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Honestly, Innovation is "Is it a used build or would someone good laugh at this build", but more generally, it means is it a good build, which is why people say innovation should be a check box if it is origonal and a check box if it is meta.--The Gates Assassin 18:42, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Please refrain from discussing on the AN. Kthx. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 18:44, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

E/Rt VwK Earth (talk · rate)

Elya's vote plz. Voted before the build was changed.--X14 17:13, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Skak got it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   21:17, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

A/W Caltrops Spiker (talk · rate)

Timmy963's vote seems to misunderstand the usage of the build, reasons of skills used, and suggests variants that would not get better results. Selket Shadowdancer 07:28, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Still, there is no clear reason for Black Mantis Thrust. You need Hidden Caltrops for it to add Cripple, and HC already causes Cripple (even when it's removed). --GuildofDeals 07:29, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

If a Monk removes the hex it cripples? If that's what you are saying then I will change the lead to optional, however it's designed to be used in a hex heavy team so that if you don't have HC recharged (or it's interrupted etc) you can still drop a spike on your target thanks to your team mates. Selket Shadowdancer 07:33, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Read Notes on Hidden Caltrops --GuildofDeals 07:34, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Please refrain from discussing at the Noticeboard. Godbox 07:35, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Sorry God. Thanks GoD, editing build accordingly. Selket Shadowdancer 07:37, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Timmy963's vote still needs looking at. Selket Shadowdancer 10:38, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Reverted build to original chain proposed due the issue of target not kiting. Please remove any nessacary votes. Selket Shadowdancer 16:50, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:05, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

User Lukejohnson, while his vote is favourable, misunderstands Innovation in his vote. I left a note on his talk page to look at his vote again, if he does nothing about it please look into it, as my understanding is that Innovation is: "Is it or will it ever become meta?" Not: "Is this a great or new concept". If I'm wrong feel free to correct me. Thanks. Selket Shadowdancer 17:12, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Discuss on talk page. I'm reverting, because you could make a legit argument either way. -Shen 18:20, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

"Most of you pvx-ers my find this a relatively new concept with the HC + black mantis thrust, but i for one have seen this used a lot, and for a long time." = Innovation 2? Lol. Can an Admin please clarify what Innovation is? Because from past debates I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with how new the concept of a build is. Selket Shadowdancer 20:58, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Crossfires vote. Selket Shadowdancer 22:19, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Oh and my vote isnt valid why?--X14 22:20, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Learn to read usage, variants, and notes imo. Selket Shadowdancer 22:25, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Lrn to use this--X14 22:28, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Enjoy the ability to spike every 25 seconds. Also... look in variants where a shadowstep is offered for the optional slot for mobility, snare from the shadowstep is not needed as you have cripple on demand as explained in notes. Again... learn to read usage, variants, and notes. It is all clearly explained to you. Selket Shadowdancer 22:32, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

My point is you dont need 2 cripple sources. The elite is terribad.--X14 22:33, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Usage, variants, notes. Read them. Selket Shadowdancer 22:38, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

See the floating box. Don't dissuades here. Innovation: either is it meta or is it a new idea, the current description allows both contradicting interpretations, therefore any innovation with a reasonable comment is valid, while the majority tend to say it's more metaness than anything, we cant say under the current description that it's not valid to rate meta builds low on innovation. Also from what i can see crossfires vote is perfectly valid.~PheNaxKian (T/c) 15:53, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

This belongs on the build talk page. Please stop adding to the discussion. -- Scottie_theNerd (argue/criticise/complain) 01:09, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Team - Locust's Way (talk · rate)

Needs to remove many votes. Locust's Fury's damage in comparison to that of MS/DB is just pathetic. Godbox 09:29, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

I cant see the votes because my account email confirmation is bugged but I think that they meant it by locust's + MoP damage, and that damage is aweasome, works pretty much like mop nuker necro. --Super Igor 10:55, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

However it is in comparison to the damage of MS/DB + MoP still inferior. Godbox 11:02, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

"As this is a noticeboard and not a talk page, please refrain from discussing!" ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:03, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

kind of yes... that seems to be made for lieak idk so,me boom or somein maybe... not a alk page anywui --Super Igor 11:10, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

P/any AB Paragon (talk · rate)

Please relink the associated talk page to the build page properly. I have no clue how to fix it. Selket Shadowdancer 09:59, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:01, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Thankyou. :) Selket Shadowdancer 10:02, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

A/E GoR Spiker (talk · rate)

Frv's build, he re-adds his wrong vote when he's told he's wrong by several people multiples times and refuses to change it, then removes another vote that gives perfect reasonings for why the build is bad (even post-change). Shit's fucking dumb. 66.240.243.24 17:07, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

I changed it alot, so I removed the votes that were there. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:09, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

User:Master Gladius's vote appears to be valid. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:39, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

I changed a large part of the bar. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:19, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Team_-_Cryway_Deep_Group (talk · rate)

Andys' vote. I don't care how stupidly awsome a build is, there's no way you can do the deep in 30 mins MAX, it's impossible to get it done in 30 mins...~PheNaxKian (T/c) 19:17, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Wut's nitpicking m8? ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 19:18, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

U coldnt RUN the deep in 30 minutes if there was nothing to kill... --- Ressmonkey (talk) 19:18, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

No discussion on AN. Yes, I'm guilty. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 19:20, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

You was saying? EDIT: Credits to Athrun Feya Selket Shadowdancer 19:20, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Gotta love the idiots that think because they did something 2 years ago they know the score now. Andy 19:28, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

A/D_Scorpion_Spiker (talk · rate)

Biased author vote with little backing compared to other votes ont he build (including those of Build Masters). ~User:Skakid9090

--Tab Moo 17:24, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

Wow, I guess Ska is angry at me. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:52, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

A/W HB AoD Assassin (talk · rate)

Build Change, Vote removal Plz (mine too)--X14 15:46, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

and dont put bullets before stuff, just leave it blank. --    Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   22:12, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Team - Dual Resto Assault (talk · rate)

Extreme has requested that Goldenstar's vote be removed. His reasoning is here and on the build's talk. I'm not really a build guy, so I'd appreciate it if someone else looked into it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:22, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

I have also received the request. I have elected not to remove the vote due to Goldenstar's point being fair and valid, and the debate is still in progress without any resolution. -- Scottie_theNerd (argue/criticise/complain) 06:31, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

I agree with Scottie, as due to the current WoH meta, 2 Shattering sins won't be killing much. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:24, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

P/N Plague Paragon (talk · rate)

Vote wipe please. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 08:08, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:40, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

A/W Caltrops Spiker (talk · rate)

← moved to Build talk:A/W Caltrops Spiker

E/any Burning Shackles (talk · rate)

Votes are overexagerated. I think there might be some socks amongst us. Earthen + Fire mnde many times and isnt a great build.--X14 17:04, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Checkuser says they're not socks. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:25, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Kk, but i think the votes are a little too overrated.--X14 18:20, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

D/any Wounded Conviction (talk · rate)

Dupe of Build:D/E Wounding Strike Spiker--X14 21:50, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Only thing they have on common is the Elite skill and the Resurrection Signet. They're not even both made for the same purpose with one being for PvP and the other PvE. You need to stay off the crack mate. :) Selket Shadowdancer 21:56, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

A/any Dwarven Promise Spiker (talk · rate)

Selket and Experienced. my reasoning is on the discussion page.--Reason.decrystallized 06:29, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   06:32, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

E/any Burning Shackles (talk · rate)

Overrated Votes. Plz look them over (not a bad build, but not great)--X14 15:47, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Dude Crossfire give up on tuning them to specific numbers. Jesus christ. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:23, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

A/R Promise Assassin PvE (talk · rate)

But no really. Then go ahead and nuke the Dwarven Spiker; I'm not going to so I don't jump the gun. -Shen 16:32, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Restoring Votes

The reason for restoring votes never shows up. -Shen 11:29, 18 February 2008 (EST)

I'd suppose that's not a bug, you just don't have space to show. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:48, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Show/Hide

Back in the resolved general coding issues, I mentioned div-frames. They were able to shown or hidden at will. Here is the extension, I think. [2] —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 10:43, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Edit: it definitely is. I tested it on my personal wiki. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 16:59, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Recent Ratings

Shows server time, does not change based on Preferences. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:36, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Personal monobook.js/.css

Could we please activate this? Lord Belar 18:03, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

Interwiki links to GuildWIki

Still point to the gw.gamewikis address instead of guildwars.wikia.com, so any time you click one it has to redirect you. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 11:34, 20 April 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:05, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Rollback

When you remove a vote, the button says "Rollback." I think it should say "Remove." Not a big thing, but just annoying. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:04, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:15, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Removal and Bans

When a BM/admin is banned, it can still remove and restore votes. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:04, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Thought that was true of Admins as well....?~PheNaxKian (T/c) 15:08, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Better? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:09, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

If admins will be banned, it´s 95% sure their adminship will be rejected(same for BM i'd suppose). They should keep themselves to the rules, otherwise they're not a good BM/Admin. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 16:09, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Sort Function

This is a perfect example of this function. Not sure what we could use it for, but we could find some use... Sort builds by Effect/Univ/Inno maybe? If we ever get that function. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.