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The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an Administrator. See resolved General Issues here.

Archiving

Sorry if this is in the wrong place but I need to archive my talkpage, can an Admin show me how to do this please (not just do it, I'd like to know how to do it for future reference). Thanks. Selket Shadowdancer 12:26, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

Download all builds

Can someone make a thingy for the categories that lets you download every build from that category? (For example, great HA builds. I want to download all the skill templates). I mainly want to do this with all the HA, GvG, and Hero builds. As well as PvE farming. It'd be nice to have all those builds ready ^^ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.204.149.156 (contribs) .

Underwood (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

This person is trolling my talk page and it is getting very annoying. Just look at his last comments on the page. I've already asked him to stop more than 1 time and he continues. ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡I͡n͡f͡i͡d͡e͡l̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı__̡͌l̡* 09:23, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

EXteel (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

likely User:Napalm Flame, judging by his userpaeg comments and crapwiki. generally talks like him too --Ms Chnandler Bong 21:58, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

PvX:NPA at Team - IntenseWay (talk · rate)'s rate page. (don't know if since I wasn't being attacked I'm supposed to report, oh well) Templar612 17:31, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Napalm claims to be cousin. EXteel was on napalm's acc or napalm on EXteel's acc, I don't know both well. However; I have suspecions too. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 06:24, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, I borrowed his acc recently to GvG, since I got a 3 day ban due to 'racial slurs'. EXteel 06:28, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Bad liar. — Skakid 11:55, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Not like it matters. It's either a) He's Napalm and gets banned for being a douche. or b) He's not Napalm and gets banned for being a douche. Doesn't really matter either way. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 21:18, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

lol, wizard wants me to be a gigantic dick so I can get banned =P EXteel 10:03, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Selket Shadowdancer (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Constant breaking of 1RV here. Keeps revoting with the same reasoning and vote despite removal. --Tab Moo 17:30, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I've changed the reasoning on my vote or changed the numbers on each revote. Learn to check history please. Selket Shadowdancer 17:33, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Keeping the reason it was removed and adding 0.1 to a score does not count as a satisfactory vote change. It's not a trashworthy build, either accept that and vote accordingly, or don't revote. --Tab Moo 17:34, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

A problem is that blocking a user doesn't prevent the user from revoting, which appears to be the issue here. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:37, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Give a warning. A ban is still pretty much a threat to stop. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:39, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think it is Trash, and my vote will continue to reflect MY opinion! You CANNOT tell me how to vote if I do so within the rules of voting and give valid reasoning, to do so is not showing what I truly think of the build as you're just forcing a differing opinion. To ban me over my opinion of a build is quite simply retarded. Give me a fucking GOOD reason why that build is NOT trash instead of removing my vote with stupid remarks that make no sense then crying about it on the AN. Selket Shadowdancer 17:42, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

There's reasoning on the talk page. I can, and will continue to remove your votes when they portray a wrong opinion. --Tab Moo 17:43, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm not a fan of it, but just don't rage over one build. Just let it go. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:45, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Why does my vote say 2.45 when it comes up as 2.5 on the actual vote? :/ Selket Shadowdancer 17:55, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think it's the rounding thing. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:56, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

So does this mean I'm going to be going backwards and forwards with this rubbish all night to find a balanced vote? Selket Shadowdancer 17:58, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Beats me. I just removed the rating because of some IMS comment. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 18:07, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Aartist21 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Constantly page wiping the build he submitted, it is going to WELL anyway, but it is ment to be done properly (or am I just failing here). /FrosTalk\ 10:46, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Probably a newbie mistake and just wanted his page deleted. Nothing major. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 13:09, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Super Igor (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

We should remove his votes, or? -Shen 09:04, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

No, that would be a hell of a lot of work. And he can just revote anyways... ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:54, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Shen means the votes he's made since being perma'd. --Tab Moo 10:00, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Oh. Still a load of work. And he can just rate again. And we can't stop him. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:01, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

TOC Question

Where is the TOC located? I tried all the combinations I know and can't seem to find it. I would like to try to edit it to fit with my page scheme a bit better. Thanks File:Eagle Globe and Anchor.JPGChoytw Talk Debates 14:23, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm obviously not wanting to modify the file that everyone uses (besides, it's probably protected), but copy it to a page and edit that one. File:Eagle Globe and Anchor.JPGChoytw Talk Debates 14:26, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

(ec)As far as i'm aware TOC is built into mediawiki (i could be wrong here) and thus isn't a tempalte at all.....also moved issue under general issues and made it a sub heading...~PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:29, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Anyone have any further clarification or validation? File:Eagle Globe and Anchor.JPGChoytw Talk Debates 14:44, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

You can probably use your monobook.css to change the way it looks, but I don't think there'd be any other way to. If you don't know css, I can probably help you with customizing it some. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:11, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

TOC can be altered with tables (example). ~ ĐONT*TALK 15:15, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks to you both. I'm fairly familiar with CSS so will give it a shot. Don't...most of those were blank but I'll look at them further to see if they'll be of help. File:Eagle Globe and Anchor.JPGChoytw Talk Debates 15:20, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Try, View Source. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 15:22, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Actually, firebug is better if you use firefox. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 16:17, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Very good idea Misery...can't believe I didn't think of it  ;-). Only problem is (and the same problem when I tried using CSS here earlier) is that the code doesn't show up correctly. Do you have to add anything to the edit box in order to get CSS to actually work? Choytw Talk Debates 14:09, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Zaj The Dervish God (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Fairly active vandal, been warned, continuing. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 14:50, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

I thought it was just the Chaos Planes farmer, but he/she also wiped Extinctions page (No reverted), blatent vandalism. /FrosTalk\ 14:53, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Blocked. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 16:44, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Holy crap, Wiz smash. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 16:48, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

He contacted me privately and says it was his cousin. Since he was very polite/mature about it, I'm gonna unblock him. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:39, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

71.104.188.14 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandal. Check contribs. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 21:39, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Stopped after warning. None of them were really terrible bad, and the Sparta->Tahlkora was not bad... ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   21:49, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Jankz goes man (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Random, strange vandalism and unrelated comments on Talk pages. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 12:32, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

He cut it out after a warning. Sorry for the spam. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 12:39, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

(EC damn is it hard to find this spot on the whole page...) I think he's going for 8 contributions... Is that still a req to rate? Lets see if he continues... ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:40, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Goldenstar (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Dunno if this person has something against me, but he just trash voted 7 (up from 6) builds I submitted in a row, I understand some of the votes do mention correct reasons, but seems a bit impulse voting don't ya think? /FrosTalk\ 22:15, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

That does seem a little odd, especially since he only rated your builds. You probably should have talked to him first, to see his reasoning, though. -Mike 22:27, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Wow make it 9 now, lets see if every build on my user page gets trashed, kinda funny tbh EDIT 10 now rofl /FrosTalk\ 22:28, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Not trying to single you out. RC was getting slow and i happened across your page. Found a bunch of garbage builds. It's not anything eprsonal, i rate bad builds badly.--Goldenstar 22:44, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

I don't see any problem here. -- Scottie_theNerd (argue/criticise/complain) 23:14, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

There isn't. Might just be the case that your builds are weak, and that needs some changing. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 09:21, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Droks (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Quite obvious that he's only pretending to be bad at GW so he can continue to troll PvX. No 10:30, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

Indeed, I have looked through his contributions and I am sure to call him a highly skilled troll. --Tiger grrr!! 06:57, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

I wouldn't really call him a troll. And it doesn't look like he's "pretending" to be bad at Guild Wars, he looks just to be, erm... not very skilled at it. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:05, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

he ... how shall i say this? he tends to view certain skills and combinations as under-rated. and he's a bit touchy. but i don't think he's a troll.--Reason.decrystallized 07:10, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

His contributions, not matter how wrong his view of skills are, are trying to be constructive. I could just be falling into this so-called "trick" that is said to be what Droks is doing, but I'm not sure. I'll leave it to admin opinion. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:12, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

(ECx2)See GoD, my oppinion is directly opposing to yours and we are about to start a debate, meaning Droks has done his job here too. :) --Tiger grrr!! 07:15, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

(EC) Most people spend like 25% of their time on PvX watching comments and builds of such persons. Sure it's officially not allowed, but if he's rather funny then annoying, why block him?Frans 07:17, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

Droks (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Obviously a highly skilled and active troll, it must not be ignored. --Tiger grrr!! 07:10, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

W/any_RotN_Axe_Warrior (talk · rate)

EXteel says Bad elite. Comment too short.. RotN is not a bad elite O.o--RELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 18:48, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

Fuck off it isn't! That build is inferior to evis axe in every way. EXteel 19:35, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

Admin noticeboard is not a discussion page. Don't put your defensive comments over here. Also; removed. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 12:42, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

A/R Promise Assassin PvE (talk · rate)

4th mention. I need a judgment please. -Shen 07:41, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Can you say the name? 4th is kinda ambiguous if I haven't voted, or yours shows it above/below where you think it is. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:45, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

He means this is the fourth time he brought this issue up, but it's been rather ignored. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:54, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I can't really say too much about it, I've never used a sin in PvE before. --Tab Moo 15:05, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

But PvE is for pros. Loads harder than silly GvG! Anyway, just so I can weigh in, I think it's fine where it is. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 15:07, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, my instinct would be that acceptable is OK, but I seem to remember the discussion over it being comparing it to a similar build, which is where I can't really help. --Tab Moo 15:08, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I don't really see the big issue, it's proven to work well in PvE. Selket Shadowdancer 15:24, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

My wammo without a bar also well works in pve. Can I add that too? —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:27, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

In no way can you say Tab has given a final judgment. I say this because he would have "decide[d] on the appropriate course of action" as per PvX:APPEAL, which, as I'm garnering, isn't the case. Of course, if Tab doesn't agree, then the decision is final. -Shen 22:17, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Me/N_Soul_Bind_Shutdown (talk · rate)

Mafarax's vote is mentally deficient.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 17:28, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

-Shen 21:06, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

His reason might be a bit iffy, but 3-3-3 is not unfair or so. I'll discuss with tabby moo. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:30, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

No, unexist, he restored the vote. the vote shen removed and what i called mentally deficient was a vote that called PB/WW useless skills for the build.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 11:52, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - IntenseWay (talk · rate)

EXteel voted 0-0-0 just because he has a conflict with me. Imbue 01:01, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

The rating was made before said confict. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 01:02, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

He's right. Not removing. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:28, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

The vote was lowered after the conflict. Godbox 15:59, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

It wasn't. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 16:12, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

It got lowered from 1-1-1 to 0-0-0.. Imbue 04:17, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Doesn't matter, as 1-1-1 and 0-0-0 are pretty much both the same; terribad. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 08:42, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

A/W Falling Shove Sin (talk · rate)

Lann's vote, doesn't understand why Shove is used, because Iron Palm has aftercast and Shove Doesn't. /FrosTalk\ 06:33, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Mo/R Natural Stride Monk (talk · rate)

Dupe of already vetted build. See talk page. Having both on the wiki is simply pointless. Selket Shadowdancer 09:12, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

See talk page for an example on why we shouldn't delete. We might as well merge all Eviscerate bars, all generic Rangers bars, and etc. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:13, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

The point is everything in this build is already covered in the general build of the same purpose. Selket Shadowdancer 09:15, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 16:14, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

N/E SS Physical Support (talk · rate)

Moloch's vote. Compares the build to another one that has clearly different purposes. Can't run his build on a hero. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 15:54, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Tabbles McBravilles got it. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:14, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Again. He says that Weaken Knees is better than SS (especially for PvE). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 14:27, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:39, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - Dark Support (talk · rate)

It's worthiness of having its own article is in question. See talk page. ~ ʑʌɱʌɳəəɺɨɳɳ(contribs) 16:07, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

please?~ ʑʌɱʌɳəəɺɨɳɳ(contribs) 00:06, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

P/N Rendagon (talk · rate)

Unexist, it is not a 3-3-3 build by far, plus every other vote (including another BM) voted as great...) /FrosTalk\ 09:23, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

So? His reason is valid. You don't see P/N's a lot for a similar reason. Vote is not removed. Discuss on build's talk page. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

R/A Exhausting Assault Ranger (talk · rate)

A common TA build (which explains why [Glad] uses it in GvG) — Skakid 14:47, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Resolved as per other entry. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:58, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Glad pretty much uses random frontliners of preference. Has nothing to do with the build. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 09:23, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

R/any_Incendiary_Interrupter (talk · rate)

Needs a vote wipe because the bar was improved. -Mike 15:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Appears to be resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:41, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

R/A_Exhausting_Assault_Ranger (talk · rate)

Looking for a second BM opinion on which votes stay. --Tab Moo 17:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Appears to have resolved itself by "discussion". Note the quotation marks. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:58, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

W/D_Decapitator (talk · rate)

Needs a vote wipe /FrosTalk\ 17:33, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:38, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

R/P_PvE_Spearchucker (talk · rate)

See Rapta's vote, build isn't worth 0-0-0 tbh. --InfestedHydralisk (Talk*Contributions) 18:03, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Osht, fixed. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 18:07, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

E/Me_Ether_Renewal_Farmer (talk · rate)

Votes need better reasons, especially Crossfirevix's vote should be removed.Frans 09:47, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - Bio Warfare (talk · rate)

Junior's vote is obviously wrong, see talk page for examples why the build fails. Godbox 10:08, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Appears to be resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 21:22, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Mo/D Colossal Scimitar HM Farm (talk · rate)

Build has been changed to overcome nerf. Some votes need to be removed (if not, vope wipe entirely). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 13:10, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. Wiped it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   14:16, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

R/P Poisonous Cruelty (talk · rate)

Dark0805's vote doesn't really make sense for a 1-1-1 vote. Selket Shadowdancer 16:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

I do have to agree. Getting so nit-picky over one tag (and most things run in RA) is just stupid. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:17, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Got it. --Tab Moo 16:18, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Dark's vote again. Same fucking reason with some random spam attatched to it. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 21:16, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Shens vote mentions no place in a TA team in an AB/RA only build. Dark0805's vote mentions lack of IAS when main build now carries an IAS. Selket Shadowdancer 11:45, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Got them. --Tab Moo 11:47, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Thankyou. Selket Shadowdancer 11:50, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Sorry, also Crossfires vote "Agree with Shen" is now invalid. Selket Shadowdancer 11:51, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Shens vote (build now has Maiming Spear in the main bar and improved condition removal), Brandnews vote (Remedy Signet has been replaced by the buffed antidote signet), and Crossfires vote (because he agrees with Shen). Selket Shadowdancer 13:20, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Uh, Brandnews vote? No Remedy Signet anymore. Selket Shadowdancer 13:35, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

k. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:52, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

E/D Capping Pressure (talk · rate)

Dark0805's vote. zzz... --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:23, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 16:31, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

W/A Shadowy Decapitation (talk · rate)

Vote wipe please, went back to trial.Frans 12:05, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

N/E Soul Bind Necromancer (talk · rate)

Needs vote-wipe. /FrosTalk\ 18:46, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

Zuranthium got it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:48, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

R/Mo Degen Spammer (talk · rate)

Overrating effectiveness. Dropping a good elite for Poison Arrow has a very slim purpose. — Skakid 00:26, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 04:10, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

A/W Bull's Charge Assassin (talk · rate)

Build has been changed, most votes' reasons don't apply anymore.Frans 02:33, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

All current votes are valid. --Tab Moo 04:11, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

R/A Expert's Knocklock (talk · rate)

Okay I am the author of this build but even I know when one of my builds isn't GREAT, (muffin's vote if you didn't know) /FrosTalk\ 13:41, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Build was wiped... ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:51, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

A/E Chaos Planes Farmer (talk · rate)

first vote ... all zeros because he doesn't want the build to become popular and then nerfed.--Reason.decrystallized 15:09, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Got it. -Shen 15:21, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

This doesn't deserve anything less than 5-5-5. The Ecto economy will die because of it. Every Assassin and his dog is using this build. :) Selket Shadowdancer 12:20, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

D/R Antidote VoS Runner (talk · rate)

Jjberks' vote, this is the build that replaced the D/P version, because Antidote signet is better than Remedy. /FrosTalk\ 20:59, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

k. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:51, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Rt/R_Spirit_Spiker (talk · rate)

The low ratings don't make sense because Splinter Barrage is baed when you cast Splinter Weapon on yourself, and Great Dwarf Weapon does, in fact, deal more damage than Splinter Weapon (even more damage while combined with Spirit's Strength). Plus, no one even mentions GDW's knockdowns in their votes. >.> -Mike 14:42, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

It is only target OTHER ally. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:01, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

You're supposed to get two of them on your team. -Mike 15:04, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

It would be nice if you would mention that on the page. And Barrage>Spirit's Strength. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:09, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

You can't deal 222 damage from Triple Shot on a 60AL without Spirit's Strength as your Elite. It won't deal as much AoE, but you should be able to take down a target in just a couple seconds. Plus, it isn't obvious, but it's there: "This Duo uses...". We should probably put more emphasis on using two of them, though. >.> -Mike 15:14, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

PvE isn't about single target damage. It's about AoE damage. Who cares if you can spike down 1 target when there's 15 others waiting to bash your skull in? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:20, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

I think you misworded that. PvE is about killing things as fast as possible (be it single target or AoE). However, this one has no energy and cannot execute frequently. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 15:29, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Dwarven Promise Spiker (talk · rate)

Experienced. and maybe xiay--rates low but defends it so w/e.--Reason.decrystallized 22:58, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

I don't see anything particularly wrong with the votes. -- Scottie_theNerd (argue/criticise/complain) 23:05, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

comparing it to a 55 is wtf, and it works everywhere without excessive hex removal or knockdown immune. also, with AP, not getting to use the whole chain is GOOD because you get to start in on the next one that much quicker.--Reason.decrystallized 23:11, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Tell that to the respective voters. The admin noticeboard should not be the first port of call in the case of disagreement with a vote. -- Scottie_theNerd (argue/criticise/complain) 23:13, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

talked to the respective voters. no dice. experience and Guild of Deals reasoning is ... weird. see the build discussion page and their talk pages for my reasons.--Reason.decrystallized 13:56, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

R/W Cowardly Turret (talk · rate)

trial vote –Ichigo724 01:50, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 04:38, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

P/R Focused Aggression (talk · rate)

I fixed up the build according to some of the votes, so it needs a wipe. >.> -Mike 10:25, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Removed the ones that are invalid since the update. --Tab Moo 10:30, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - Great Dwarf's Strength (talk · rate)

Debate as to whether it should be tagged for WELL. See talk page for arguments of both sides. Dumb Was This Username 14:50, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Me/Mo_SoJ_Mesmer (talk · rate)

R061N is not INTELLIGENT.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 15:35, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:53, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

A/W_YAA_Assassin (talk · rate)

Goldenstar.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 16:40, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 16:42, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - Ursan Avatar (talk · rate)

Dumb Was This Username's vote is based off no logical basis. If he actually red the discussion he would understand better but instead voted two 0s and a 3 where I have been receiving 4s and 5s. Can you get rid of his vote that is bringing down all of the votes that were cast with reason? Thank you for your time. EoD Itzl 17:35, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Thank you for not posting the correct way. Please do it correctly, I need a link and stuff. See the other ones, put it up there w/ them. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:39, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Just noticed, never had to post here.. My bad EoD Itzl 17:44, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Removed. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:53, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Thank you Frvwfr2. EoD Itzl 18:02, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

E/Me Blasting Snare of Death (talk · rate)

Votes from Crossfirexiv and Guild of Deals give no reasonable reason to support their votes for this build. There are no given examples of better bars on the builds talk page and requests to the users for explaniation have gone unanswered. Request that the votes be edited by users or removed so that the build has a decent chance of being vetted correctly (I know its not the best build out there and it may not be the most innovative or universal but its effectiveness is definatly better than a 1 of 5). Or at least provide links to builds that are better bars so I can take a look at them. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Erondilthevaliant (contribs) 18:15, 18 June 2008.

They appear to be fine. I responded on the talk page. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 18:28, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Me/N Wither Mesmer (talk · rate)

Many votes overstate effectiveness, see my comments on talk page. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 03:37, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Reverting

Somehow when you press undo at revert; you get the old version up, which pretty much makes reverting annoing. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 05:17, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

I'm not sure I get what you mean. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 07:56, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

You have to go through looking at the old version first, and cant just undo it fast. Admins have rollback to do it quickly, but regular users have a "short, 6 step process!" to undo. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:07, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Basicly normal users can only "undo" the last edit, to undo anything more than that you have to find the last decent version of the page then copy and paste. ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 10:56, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

or just click edit on that version & save it over the current revision. - PANIC! sexiness! 12:28, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Exactly. Doesn't seem that bad to me. The only problem is the engine doesn't suggest a summary this way, but usually a shorter notice is enough there anyway. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:09, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Restoring Votes

The reason for restoring votes never shows up. -Shen 11:29, 18 February 2008 (EST)

I'd suppose that's not a bug, you just don't have space to show. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:48, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Right. We don't store the full history of votes, that is edits, removals and restores. At the moment only the last version is kept in the database. I think it would look confusing to have a reason for a restore with a vote, but no sign of when and why and by whom it was removed in the first place. The restoring reason is just a dummy entry at the moment. To implement a full history is on the long-term to do list :-) – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:36, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Show/Hide

Back in the resolved general coding issues, I mentioned div-frames. They were able to shown or hidden at will. Here is the extension, I think. [1] —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 10:43, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Edit: it definitely is. I tested it on my personal wiki. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 16:59, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Will have a look. I'm waiting for gc to reactivate the test server, would like to try it there first. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:38, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Ratings

Shows server time, does not change based on Preferences. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:36, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Will look at it when test server is back up. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:39, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Personal monobook.js/.css

Could we please activate this? Lord Belar 18:03, 19 April 2008 (EDT)

I activated it. Note that according to the MediaWiki manual, it may increase security risk to users and server load. If we encounter problems there, we might have to de-activate it again. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 14:03, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Thanks. The .js is working fine (Too well, in fact. :P), but the .css doesn't seem to to be on. Lord Belar 20:07, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Hmm, I hoped they would both work just by activating them in the settings. Seems I have to dig a bit deeper for the css. I'll put it on the ToDo list, but I'm afraid it's not top priority. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 07:17, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

Never mind, I just forgot to clear my cache. :P Lord Belar 14:44, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

Interwiki links to GuildWIki

Still point to the gw.gamewikis address instead of guildwars.wikia.com, so any time you click one it has to redirect you. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 11:34, 20 April 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:05, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Rollback

When you remove a vote, the button says "Rollback." I think it should say "Remove." Not a big thing, but just annoying. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:04, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:15, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Removal and Bans

When a BM/admin is banned, it can still remove and restore votes. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:04, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Thought that was true of Admins as well....?~PheNaxKian (T/c) 15:08, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Better? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:09, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

If admins will be banned, it´s 95% sure their adminship will be rejected(same for BM i'd suppose). They should keep themselves to the rules, otherwise they're not a good BM/Admin. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 16:09, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

In addition to this, banned users can still vote. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   06:31, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Sort Function

This is a perfect example of this function. Not sure what we could use it for, but we could find some use... Sort builds by Effect/Univ/Inno maybe? If we ever get that function. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Special:UserRatings

Can we get a way to check another users ratings, rather than just our own? Helps out in case of socks that were discovered late, such as Crossfire+Woof. I would think it would be fairly easy to code. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:14, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Maybe a BM/Admin restricted checkuser style thing, but with votes instead of edits? --Tab Moo 11:59, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

That would be great... But I don't see why not allow everyone to see it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:07, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I just guessed it would be easy to add as an extra option on checkuser. --Tab Moo 15:10, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Meh, I actually think it would work kinda like Contributions atm... But you type in whoevers name. Not a part of checkuser. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:11, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I actually didn't think of that <_< --Tab Moo 15:12, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I think the original idea as so you could see everyone's, and it's beign worked, i think ti was jsut Hippo managed to get this done so he amde it available, iirc it's on his to do list (could eb wrong). ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 09:06, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Is on the list, have to wait for test server.– HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 08:19, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

When a build is moved to user space...

It keeps the votes on it. Is there a way to check its namespace, and if it isn't the Build: space, it wipes the votes? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:17, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I tested this, and basically, when a build with votes is moved to userspace (or probably anywhere outside of the Build: namespace), the ratings still show on recentratings and userratings, but the links to the page don't work (when I moved it to User:Wizardboy777/Test, the links on recentratings and userratings went to Build:Wizardboy777/Test), there's no rate tab on the page and &action=rate doesn't work (I'm assuming it's set up to only work in the Build: namespace). ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:40, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I did more testing, and if one creates the page Build:Wizardboy777/Test while User:Wizardboy777/Test (the one with the rating) still exists, recentratings will link to the first one, but that one won't have any votes. Also, I think auto-wiping votes when moved out of the Build: namespace would be a bad idea. Normal users would be able to wipe votes. Just have recentratings and userratings not display ratings for pages not in the Build: namespace. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:53, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Good point. Thats a good idea. Maybe a category "Ratings on builds in non-build space." ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:00, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

I changed recentratings and userratings. Do we really need that 'category'? (More like a special page, ratings can't be in categories since they are no pages.) – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 08:23, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Editing outdated versions of pages

I think I keep doing this unintentionally and removing comments from talk pages. I think this is probably because the warning looks exactly the same as the kbs warning. Any chance this warning could be made like bigger and inside a red box or something to prevent people from doing this unintentionally? - isery -TALK 05:48, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

It is red now. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 06:57, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Checkuser

When trying to get IPs for a user, I'm occasionally getting this error message: Fatal error: Call to undefined method IP::isipaddress() in /var/www/w/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php on line 532. --Tab Moo 06:31, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Bet it was to check me out. EXteel 06:33, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

See Gcardinal's talk. This is in two different places on there. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:46, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Downloading skill templates

Would it be possible to allow users to specify a default location in preferences for skill templates to be downloaded to? It's somewhat annoying to have to go through and find c:\program files\guild wars\templates\skills every time I want to download one. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:52, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

You could create a shortcut to the folder on your desktop, then it's just a matter of dragging it onto the shortcut. Still, it'd be a nice feature to have. --Mafaraxas (talk • contribs) 23:57, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Where to save is up to your browser, I'm not sure if the server can override that. Maybe with an absolute path. Anyway, it means adding an entry to the preferences, which means all the old ones have to be converted to the new structure etc. which means some work and the need for a test server. I'll put it on the list but don't expect it too soon. For the moment I'd also suggest to use a shortcut. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 10:49, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

How come every time I download a code and save it in my templates folder, it always says it's invalid in Guild Wars? — ク Eloc 貢 12:04, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think right now, any template with a '+' in the code is invalid because the + is the URL escape character for a space or something like that. You can go into the folder they're stored in and fix them manually. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Category:Untested testing AB builds

For some reason there is a ritualist build under the "E" section. I'm not sure if it is just me though...I tried bypassing my browser's cache but that didn't fix it, so I'm thinking it might be a slight coding error of some sort. -- Come visitmy grass shack! 11:57, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

WHen it got moved it broke. So i deleted it and restored, and it's fine now. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:01, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Just doing a null edit (hit edit, hit save without changing anything, doesn't show up on RC or history or anything) fixes those. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:58, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Vertical-align for ratings

When a vote has a very long description, Overall, Effectiveness, Universality and Innovation tend to stick to the bottom instead of being in the same line as ratings. A style="vertical-align: center;" should be able to solve this. ~ ĐONT*TALK 09:48, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

The ratings are set up as a table (see my sandbox for the html used). I don't think adding a vertical-align:center would work, since the problem is that the cells are stretching, not spreading out. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:37, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Indeed. I tried a few things, but it's no good. ~ ĐONT*TALK 18:16, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.

Dash and Expertise

Expertise doesn't reduce the energy cost of dash. See here. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Expertise isn't meant to reduce energy cost of Dash (see what expertise effects; Ranger skills, attack skills, touch skills and binding rituals). /FrosTalk\ 18:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

That's... wow. They changed it back in October of 2006, and I never noticed XD I still thought it affected all non-spell skills :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

"For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%." Just FYI, from GWW. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

An admin that's two years out of date, you need an update :P /FrosTalk\ 21:18, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

The funny thing is, I probably would have noticed if my suggestion below was implemented :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:31, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Ironic or what ;) /FrosTalk\ 23:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Mouse-over Attribute descriptions

Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? /FrosTalk\ 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Hex Breaker

Build:Team - HB Blackout Spike, in the optional list it says it lasts 65s@10. However, it is actually 55 in game. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:26, 19 June 2008 (EDT)