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Oh wow. Next step in the nerfing line is Backbreaker disabling all non-hammar skills. --Chaos? -- 21:10, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

I played this today, except I used no hammer mastery and Enraging Charge. People just went like: "WTF!?" It was so awesome, I believe I came. --Brandnew 21:26, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

I can"t believe that it works but it does, pure ownage :o --tÜrae£xy 21:33, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
Just tried this out. It was great; really nice being able to play with my BB sin again.
How much damage does this spike do by the way? Is it on par with the old BB sin build because with out crit strikes Twisting Fangs does 18 less damage and the chance of crits is lower but is this negated by the fact that you don't suffer the -25% weapon base damage (I know that dagger base damage is pathetically weak but it still makes a difference)?
Anet needs to learn why these builds are effective in a team. Spiritway. Nerf spirits and problems might disappear. Might make Twisting Fangs 1 sec DW at 0 crits?--Pinkeyflower 13:12, March 6, 2010 (UTC)


Devastating Hammer Flail Falling Spider Twisting Fangs Falling Lotus Strike Blades of Steel Dash Optional


for the brave --Frosty Frostcharge 14:35, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Full strength makes you do more damage in the long run anyway, and gives you 4 adr echarge, I vote full str. --Brandnew 14:57, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Go full strength! Hammer isnt even needed :p —Forget Bible 01:41, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
Everyone knows you never go full retard. Zyke-Sig 01:49, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
I can't remember when JJ's image took such hard blows. --Chaos? -- 06:29, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
I put that there just to annoy people and zyke lol? —Forget Bible 20:46, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that's probably the motivation behind all retarded thing said. No, wait. Badness. --Chaos? -- 20:54, March 2, 2010 (UTC)


Still gonna ask it.. where is the energy? Zealous daggers only?:SSebv2727 21:34, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

33% ias with zealous daggers = tons of energy not to mention falling lotus. --Smity the Smith 21:37, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
Falling Lotus Strike makes sinspikes free. --Chaos? -- 21:50, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

so...wastrel's collapse + stonefist insignia is similar but less damage? not asking about viability just if it's similar ryuwizard98 02:44, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I guess it would be, but 20 recharge is bad, considering with a hammer elite you can use different chain inbetween your main spike. --Frosty Frostcharge 02:50, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
yeah this is true ryuwizard98 17:22, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

well Considering the fact that this chain charges the KD you can spam

KD, Flail, Chain, KD which is pretty sick. To use this to full potential I suggest macros for Cancel stance weapon switches, its pretty button intensive, and easy to finger fumble doing it the old fasion way, plus flail's activation just before a weapon swap crys for computer speed, over human fingers.

Please sign comments. Also, you don't need macros or what not to use this build. If you can't use Flail after BB then this build is not for you. Weapon swapping is easy. Assassin chains are just 1-2-3-4-5 or in this case 3-4-5-6. Just roll you face over the keyboard and this should work--Pinkeyflower 09:39, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
...using flail after BB makes you incapable of using it instantly, makeing your spike slower, you know? Brandnew 11:34, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
Useing Flail before Backbreaker means you have to hit your target before BB, which means they can just run away ^o^ --Frosty Frostcharge 13:03, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
Fixed a small grammar--72.189.80.199 14:01, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
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