I think it wont work :) --GodFocused Anger.jpgKamil 20:09, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Explain.--DigitalDigitalfear Sig.jpgFear 20:16, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
I think it just worked :):):):)MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 02:01, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Thats a lot of Save Yourselves.pr0adam!Spirtbondextendededition.jpg 14:31, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
It's to keep Excluded/Minion from dying. Cuilan 15:56, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Incase anyone gets stripped, we have time to infuse, reprot, etc. before they explode via nu3kz. Someone care to finish the copypasta? qq MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 16:22, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
How are you going to do 4H?-- Elf-eElf.jpg 17:14, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
I'll write the usage for that in a little. It's pretty simple, though. MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 17:21, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Don't think 1 hex remover is enough tbhSharkytalk 22:40, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

O yea I don't really think dark fury is all that needed, think OotV would be a lot betterSharkytalk 23:02, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
If spike damage is better, why are you running dagger chains? :< Life Guardian 03:01, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
Because one dagger chain will kill a skeleton, and one chain used by 4~sins can kill an aatxe in one chain. MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 07:00, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
Right, I'll switch OoV back in. I prefer it too, but people would have asked why we weren't maximizing our damage zzzz. One hex removal seems sufficient; only really need it in Plains, and only the ERs need cleaning. MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 07:30, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
Be less lazy plox. I was so excited about UWing with this and you went RA. >: --Iggy 's other account 09:14, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

would Technobabble make plains easier?Sharkytalk 05:38, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

And while Im talking about EotN skills how about FH, IATS(I am the strongest), DT(dodge this), YMLAD Ebon wardsSharkytalk 05:41, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
Only logical ones I would consider spammable enough would be Dodge This! If you want to run a ward, that's fine, though there'll be alot of downtime and you won't notice the difference, as you'll be killing too fast anyway. MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 09:11, June 3, 2010 (UTC)


If you are bonded by the E/Mo, does save yourselves reduce that damage further? I dont think it does, so it might not be worth it Zedone2 10:18, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

should've read above ^^ Zedone2 10:19, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
It's another layer of defence. If a Dying Nightmare strips someone, Save Yourselves will give the ER enough leeway to Infuse, prot and rebond. Same for GDW. Also, not much can replace it of any worth. MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 11:09, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
How about have one sin bring save yourselves + dc, and put ee on everyone - so you can jump around... it'd make the runs faster and can provide a spike heal if one ER drops by accident -Phil
Thought about it before; we had one sin with DC and AoS to recharge it more often, so they could ball, and spike certain things cleaner (i.e. Keeper of Souls) But was proven ineffective in this setup. You lose alot of DPS when not running Ascan/BuH, for not enough gain. It's not a nuke; it's constant DPS. The Overextending always irritates me, because ERs can't heal Parties like Monks can, we rely on Infuse, and OoV/Blood Bond. With a mixed physical team, it would be different- however we can spare 2 seconds to get to the foe with the damage we're packing.MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 17:22, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Overall, Terrible

Where are the pictures? How am I supposed to do this if you don't explain everything for me?--ArrogantArrogant Bastard Sig.jpgBastard 09:25, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

As in, for someone who has no prior knowledge of UW or a whole team? They can learn through trial and error, then. MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 09:33, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
Don't see why we couldn't get lots of screens and post a guide... probably a better idea to put it up on guru though.Roarer 16:21, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
Screen of end chest or it doesn't work. And in HARD MODE, it will most definitely never work. Welcome to Clumsiness and Riposte spam. --Risus 02:18, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
Riposte spam? You must be mad. About the mindblades; they have quite low health since the update and go down quickly. Clumsiness doesn't impede speed by that much. I posted screens previously, but as you wish.MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 08:52, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Comments on Usage

^Would be nice. If anything can be done differently to improve speed, I'd like to hear your ideas. I imagine you could probably make a split or two for Mountains/Pools and Vale. So yes; comments and questions. MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 13:15, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think the split we just discussed would be very useful. For people who weren't there ill post it up here: After chamber/uwg/escort 3Sins and 1 ER head off up to mountains to pop the reaper. During this time, the Necro 2nd ER and 2 Assassins do the Vale quest. After which, everyone teles up to Mountains. Thus saving 5/10 minutes or so.Roarer 16:20, June 3, 2010 (UTC)




is buh really worth it? no one should be below 50% health so its only gonna have at most 1/3 uptime Notorious BW 11:25, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

ERs spamming infuse- you can expect them to be below 50% quite often during a fight. But the uptime in mobs is fine, as it only takes 10 seconds tops to take out a mob. MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 12:05, June 4, 2010 (UTC)


Whar iz da hee-ulz? 07:21, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

1/10 --Iggy 's other account 08:55, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
Have a go at answering this yourself. Where are the heals? MinionMinion sig k bish.jpgExcluded 08:57, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Is it really reasonable to take everything at 4HW due to update, or are all the PUG ER Infoozers going to explode and cry in an amusing way?

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