Build talk:Team - FoW Physicalway

powerful! — Skakid 17:36, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Go 4 PvE skills on 1 bar? redo the para

bleh

I'm absolute shit with wikicode. Certain attributes are refusing to show up... :< Snow Bunny 17:43, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

You don't put spaces in between 2-word attributes (like Hammer Mastery; it's HammerMastery in WikiCode). I'll fix it. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:44, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Is this polished enough or...? What other information do you see as necessary? I'd prefer to not have to list the entire route; not to mention that you basically just leeroy into everything with this, especially in HM.Snow Bunny 18:01, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

I count 6 physicals ;o --Tab Moo 13:34, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Heh, I noted it as 4 because... Assassin/Dervish/Warrior/Paragon. Thanks for putting it in Trial Snow Bunny 13:40, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Stop

Making PvE builds. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 13:47, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

No. Go away PvP noob. --Tab Moo 13:48, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Quiet the contrary. Stop making GvG builds with 1 changed midliner and a new dumb name. — Skakid 13:49, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Unexist, I may have to bravely 1v1 you. Snow Bunny 13:50, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm wondering...Why is this called "4 Physical FoW", if there are 5 physicals? -- Come visitmy grass shack! 18:59, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Technically there's 6, if you count the paragon. But the real reason is to cause aneurysms when people get confused by that. =o — Rapta (talk|contribs) 19:05, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

And besides from Rapta's statement there also is a little thing called 'reading' try it, its good. ^.^ Brandnew. 19:06, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

seriously, GDW--RELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 04:19, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

WTB Healing... WoH protters are kindof dated... drop the para or sin for a second monk and make them both HB... or atleast add some form of other healing... Driggy 02:53, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Driggy you are stupid and prolly ran ursan and failed...Glints Bane 16:48, 4 February 2009 (EST)

real discussion.

My first problem with the build that it completely lacks of condition removal and conditions are numerous in PvE. blindness eats your physicals away. maybe cautery signet and signet of Remedy for paragon... and/or dismiss condition for monk, or a melandru dervish in place of a dwayna with Draw conditions.Borotvalt 10:24, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

It's a FoW build. --Tab Moo 10:46, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

"No defense wtb" = you're terrible

I have updated the build to represent the most recent trips taken to FoW. The retard who said drop the Paragon for an HB monk is a moron. You're an idiot if you think an HB monk is better than TNTF/SY! The only real damage taken by anyone in this build is from Spiteful Spirit/Empathy. There is a lot of condition removal now from Foul Feast, a lot of hex removal, etc. It clears HM in 43 minutes; I'm fairly sure that this build is legit.Snow Bunny 12:15, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Orders

has three professions. Res sig? -StarSeeker | My talk 13:22, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. Also, with dark fury, is focused anger still needed? --Sazzy 13:49, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeah. Both is sex. -StarSeeker | My talk 13:54, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

4adrenaline per hit isn't really needed to keep up save yourselves though imo. Another elite for even better party support is better sex. Good sex > mediocre sex --Sazzy 15:51, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

What else are you going to put there? i doubt you've actually played the entire build, so i'll help you here. You want all of your adrenaline to go to SY! so you can spam it every 2 hits or so. SY! powers your entire bar. What other elite are you thinking? Anything like SoR/SoP is overkill.Snow Bunny 15:56, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Lol don't treat me like some random idiot >.< ! I've played imbagon before and I can maintain SY w/o the orders necro. As the necro gives you double adrenaline, my logic tells me I will still be able to maintain SY without using FA. So, I rather overkill on taking SoR than take something that isn't needed in the first place. Extra party heal never hurt anyone. Might be useful if you're allegiance rank is uber low or something. --Sazzy 16:12, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Blocking, missing hexes, enchantment stripping etc. Due to circumstances, FA is nice. You're right, it's not crucial, but it's really nice to bring along. Like you said 'it can't hurt', well, FA can't hurt either. -StarSeeker | My talk 16:31, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

That's a lot of enchant removal if they can rip Dark Fury from you every 5 seconds, esp since they'll most likely rip it from your frontline first. At least put in variants or something that according to the area, you take FA or whatever elite. --Sazzy 17:15, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Note the name. There's only one area this is designed for. --Tab Moo 17:16, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Saz, what elite do you promote? It can't be motivation or command, seeing as you're not getting the most out of it with 7 spec, and it needs to be leadership/spear mastery. If it's spear mastery, then it's adrenal, which means it's detracting from SY! spam. This is for FoW- not for general pve.Snow Bunny

Oh I just looked at the tags, apologies for that. And it's not like it wouldn't work outside of FoW anyway. Anyway, if you drop spear mastery by one, DPS would still be ok and you could put 8 into command or motivation, and with the minor rune, take a normal shield for one and take whatever elite you want. Not saying that you have to, just saying that you *can* --Sazzy 18:02, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

How can you spam Erf Shakur on charge, it doesn't have a recharge :( ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 18:11, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

:( As in, you simply spam Earthshaker - under Dark Fury, you often hit enough simply to keep AoE KDing entire mobs.Snow Bunny 18:13, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

the Assassin build

could be better; critical strike will return more energy than falling lotus, and Club of a Thousand Bears should be more readily available because of Moebius --ninpou 11:48, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

misnomer?

why is this called 4 physical fow when you are using 1 war 3 dervs and 1 sin? that is 5 physical attackers not four.. am i missing out on something?Klomi 17:31, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

the point is that it uses 4 different classes for physical dmg TAKE YOUR PILLS 19:43, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

take better order guy

take a order of vamp for some lifestealing or take a d/n with orders so you get more dmg (Oopain) and adranaline(fury) and some aprty wide healings Student of goa 12:24, 20 August 2008 (EDT)student of goa

You don't know what you're fucking talking about. So shut up.Snow Bunny 17:44, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

I would have to say an orders derv does work and you could take out GDW and use a orders hero. [SMS] used to run this build and they would use a hero for orders which worked nicely.Glints Bane 14:04, 4 February 2009 (EST)

variants

Another Earthshaker won't work. Too much hex pressure. Snow Bunny 12:27, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Keep them on the ground? dont let them cast in the first place?--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 03:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Imbagon

is only marginally useful. With Dark Fury you could put SY! on a derv to save a character slot. Either i'm a PvP noob or this is not that hard to figure out. Discuss ~ Jujipootalk 03:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

you're a retard. only thing that needs to be changed in this build is Lightning Spear/Furious Spear for the current Swift Javelin.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 03:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I would say drop FGJ! on the para for "Go for the Eyes." FA keeps maintaining SY super easy most of the time, and the imbagon shouldn't NEED FGJ in the downtime. I thought go for the eyes was pretty obvious in a build with 6 physicals, not to mention it would let the para actually DW209.136.71.235 19:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)