Why apply poison? Rupert=Hawt 
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- --Aartist21 12:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)its used for extra degeneration against foes that escaped some of the traps because you have 0 Marksmanship and you can't do
- noticeable (about 7 max..). There is no particular reason to use it you can replace it for any other skill that you like
- I just happened to have it so I left it there and it's work fine
lol
"(most people don't know it but you can put more then 1 of the same trap)." - I loled :D Dumazz 07:40, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
most people SHOULD know it or they never trapped before in their life 17:09, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
TRAPPERS SPEED!! btw it would be better to instead of putting the four skills in optionl just say 1 memeber form each team has each spirit (1 has FS, 1 has QZ, 1 has EW other can have whatever)
Howe304 13:14, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
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with each of the 4 teammates having FS, QZ, EW, Peicing Trap in the optional. Howe304 13:20, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
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- take bout 2 or 3 out of expertise and add it too beast mastery.
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Heroes?
can it be done with heroes?
- Yes it can be done on zaishen challenge easy but on zaishen elite micro managing can be difficult and you usualy wont make it past the 5th round as if you come up against the ele or degen team the heroes dont go up to the enemies and trap em and micro managing them then is neerly impossible
Howe304 11:11, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
- Yes it can be done on zaishen challenge easy but on zaishen elite micro managing can be difficult and you usualy wont make it past the 5th round as if you come up against the ele or degen team the heroes dont go up to the enemies and trap em and micro managing them then is neerly impossible
- Trap order could be better, you want longer recharging ones at the start if you use above build in order its best, they recharge on after the other.Howe304 02:57, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
- Trap order could be better, you want longer recharging ones at the start if you use above build in order its best, they recharge on after the other.
changes
i changed it alot and made it clearer and look like a real team build complete with role specific usage etc.Howe304 13:13, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
Eeeehrherm!!
This is the standard trap team build, and has been used for aaaaaaaaages!!! It's like posting the 55 hp build now and call it original... MeSmErIzEr 05:13, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
You know you can solo trap the zaishen theres no need for a team
- yh but what happends when u come up against a load of eles? it works better in a team and you dont get elss faaction. The build isnt on PvXwiki so it nice to finally c it here.(who sed it was original) sign comments pls That Twin Tom 10:40, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
You can't solo trap Zaishen elites (which is what the first sentence says the build is for) and get the 6000 possible faction from it. You could probably go 8 rounds if you're lucky and then you'll just be overwhelmed. - PANIC! 
sexiness! 10:41, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
- why is this under PvE? 76.188.100.220
Why qz and ew on #2
I realize that the last FS can be replaced with a nuker variant, but shouldn't #4 have qz somewhere on him also. That way both ew and qz are up alot faster.--Under
Gunned 01:29, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
- It does work out overall as about the same number of traps.Howe304 10:29, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
- It does work out overall as about the same number of traps.
Trappers speed?
Why use Trappers speed? Serpents Quickness is better for laying down many traps (imo)
Trappers speed: spike barb/viper/smoke/flame traps are 15/1.5 traps, dust/tripwire are 23/2 traps Serpents Quidckness: spike/viper/smoke/flame traps are 13/2 traps, dust/tripwire are 20/3 traps
plus sq reduces the recharge of other skills (beside traps)
- Trapper's speed helps activation time. thus more trapping than SQ. ~ Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 00:10, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
The optional elementalist build should be changed.
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Beware 20:09, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
- y deaths Charge? i dont play eles but u have used that build in Zaishen ELite before and it worked fine, if you think you have a better version by all meens change it.Howe304 02:48, 30 June 2008 (EDT)