Talk: W/any Headbutt Sword

suggestions for cat tags needed - Y0_ich_halt 16:30, 12 December 2007 (CET)

Errr... Category tags... Hmmmmm... What about RA and TA? It can't hurt, just throw in a self heal. Also, I'd say bring Shadow Arts to 8. --GuildofMoses 16:31, 22 December 2007 (EST)

the attribs are pretty much preference. that 1 second won't be much since your spike shouldn't take longer than 3s anyway ^^ as for RA, i don't think it's suited since it can't build good pressure and it can't solo spike, but in TA, it might help. so i'll add TA. - Y0_ich_halt 07:44, 23 December 2007 (EST)

I'd bring disrupting chop instead of agonizing, since this is shutdown more than it is damage. Return could be in the optional so you're more free to overextend. --Mafaraxas 14:47, 29 December 2007 (EST)

since your target is dazed, your attacks will interrupt anyway, so damage is preferred, especially since agonizing chop activates faster ;) it's a good alternative, though. - Y0_ich_halt 11:24, 1 January 2008 (EST)

Beguiling seems a bit heavy on energy to be useful consistently--Traxx 21:06, 4 January 2008 (EST)

No I've used this build before and its fine on energy as long as you use a Zealous Axe XvivaX 21:14, 4 January 2008 (EST)

you don't even need a zealous axe that badly. for one spike, you will use 20 energy. between two spikes, there will be 20s time to regenerate: 2 pips * 20s = 2/3*20 energy = 40/3 energy = 33 energy. You can even spike twice without haze only using frenzy. ^^ - Y0_ich_halt 09:14, 6 January 2008 (EST)

40/3 = 13.33, lol. You do need a zealous axe, but it's not needed constantly. -- Mafaraxas 17:40, 6 January 2008 (EST)

lol, i gotta stop doing maths after midnight... (i'm at EST -6) and you still don't need it. if you would, i'd have problems with the build ¬.¬ - Y0_ich_halt 13:37, 7 January 2008 (EST)

...Add Caltrops in Optionals? I dunno, looks pretty solid. -StarSeeker | My talk 09:35, 6 January 2008 (EST)

do you think i should add or remove any more tags? - Y0_ich_halt 13:08, 6 January 2008 (EST)

AB and CM? Maybe even PvE with Cyclone Axe. Heck, any builds works there. -StarSeeker | My talk 14:07, 6 January 2008 (EST)

not this, beguiling haze is totally misplaced in pve. but ab and cm may work. - Y0_ich_halt 14:34, 6 January 2008 (EST)

Who cares, it's just PvE anyway. I always run a boonprot just for the nostalgia. -StarSeeker | My talk 10:56, 7 January 2008 (EST)

i run a smiter w/ ray of judgment :D - Y0_ich_halt 12:26, 7 January 2008 (EST)

And how many people /ragequit in your groups? lol -- Mafaraxas 13:00, 7 January 2008 (EST)

AI doesn't qq :P - Y0_ich_halt 13:35, 7 January 2008 (EST)

Sousuke does. He's emo. -StarSeeker | My talk 15:26, 7 January 2008 (EST)

you're right. i suck. you suck. life sucks. *emosob* - Y0_ich_halt 15:47, 7 January 2008 (EST)

*hands over a razor* -StarSeeker | My talk 09:51, 8 January 2008 (EST)

thanks, but a knife would do, too... - Y0_ich_halt 11:22, 8 January 2008 (EST)

No. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 15:48, 7 January 2008 (EST)

EDIT:No Bull's (if it did have no energy to use), evis > BH, shock >BH (KD > daze on spikes anyway). Overall just a meh build. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 15:54, 7 January 2008 (EST)

5s daze every 20s > 2s kd every 30s. - Y0_ich_halt 11:22, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Movement control > daze, though. But it also depends on where youre playing and with what other players. -StarSeeker | My talk 13:34, 8 January 2008 (EST)

bull's and stonefist say hai2u –Ichigo724 19:23, 8 January 2008 (EST)

yes, the optional is supposed to be bull's, but shouldn't it stay optional with the other stuff you can put in there? - Y0_ich_halt 08:46, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Bull's main build doesn't work with the energy constraints, but let's have it in the variants for those who want to try it or another energy skill. Zuranthium 22:06, 11 February 2008 (EST)

looks like it could work in some situations however i think it would work best paired with another damage dealer with good coordination Deathly Spirit 07:25, 12 February 2008 (EST)

That's... a given. -- Mafaraxas 10:42, 12 February 2008 (EST)

The energy cost and sacrafices given up for Beguiling Haze is too much to justify this over a Eviscerate/Bull's Axe warrior with Death's Charge, imo. Even with a Zealous Axe. Paragon City 13:56, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Wait, how do I get two secondaries? Is there some quest chain I missed? --71.229 13:57, 12 February 2008 (EST)

My bad, I mixed up my wording. Thanks for catching me. Paragon City 13:59, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Gotta love a score 2.49, adding 0.01 would sort it into Other. :P Godbox 14:28, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Doesn't look very much like an Axe build, it was changed by IP 76.25.252.67 Araziel 18:07, 12 February 2008 (EST)

anyone wanna teach me how to revert?:0.--AESTHETIC

For an actual revert, use the diff page (in the history: select the old radiobutton in the left column, keep the other one at the top right), click "undo" at the topright, then save the page. Or, just edit an older version & save. The first version enters the revert info though. –Ichigo724 18:46, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Whenever I've tried to use the undo to undo more than the most recent change, it just applies to the most recent change. Er, I mean that you can't undo multiple edits at once without getting an edit copy of the old page and saving that way. -- Mafaraxas 19:23, 12 February 2008 (EST)

orite, forgot about that one, rollbacks (which is more edits than one diff'd reverted) are admin only iirc. –Ichigo724 20:20, 12 February 2008 (EST)