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bash me pl0x /FrosTalk\ 06:56, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Evis + Shock, imo. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 06:57, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Swords >>>> Axes on coward. —The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 06:58, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Why is that, anyway? ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 06:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Swords >>>> Axes on coward. —The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 06:58, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
Coward AND bull's strike, owow <3 I already love this build. Brandnew. 07:13, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Imo, coward + bulls is redundant. I might do what the other build did and bring FGJ instead of bulls. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 08:46, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Shock. -StarSeeker | My talk 09:32, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Nowai. You're not taking shock when you still can take b-strike. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 11:25, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- ^ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 11:26, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- why take bull's? coward is like an elite bull's that actually works. steelfang = recharge coward neway. (Kiron 11:51, 21 June 2008 (EDT))
- Steelfang = nerfed, why take Bull's and Coward? just because you can. /FrosTalk\ 11:54, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Bull's doesn't require adrenaline, doesn't cause exhaustion and it's Bull's Strike. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 12:03, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- And I do believe Bull's are brave, meaning it is a Bull versus a Coward. /FrosTalk\ 12:07, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Anyone that's used to Bull's should take it. Shock is a bad idea, and 2 sources of KD is fun.--Fallen (talk) 12:22, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Shock isnt a bad idea, theres no room--RELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 16:04, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- I meant Bulls + Coward + Shock, actually 8D -StarSeeker | My talk 17:40, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- No room tbh /FrosTalk\ 17:50, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Could take out Agonizing. Would be ultimate harrassment. -StarSeeker | My talk 20:57, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Would it be worth it?/FrosTalk\ 21:08, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- As a professional axeinyoface'r, I must say this looks good on paper. But I agree, drop Agonizing for FGJ. moar kd pls. Big~PEW~tymer 22:01, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Don't know, probably not. But at least it's something different, might get vetted. Other idea and stuff. -StarSeeker | My talk 05:42, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
- I personally wouldn't run coward after steelfang nerf, that said never use rush and coward. Also executioners is better.I Heal If U Shutup 13:01, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
- Would it be worth it?/FrosTalk\ 21:08, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Could take out Agonizing. Would be ultimate harrassment. -StarSeeker | My talk 20:57, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- No room tbh /FrosTalk\ 17:50, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- I meant Bulls + Coward + Shock, actually 8D -StarSeeker | My talk 17:40, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Shock isnt a bad idea, theres no room--RELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 16:04, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Anyone that's used to Bull's should take it. Shock is a bad idea, and 2 sources of KD is fun.--Fallen (talk) 12:22, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- And I do believe Bull's are brave, meaning it is a Bull versus a Coward. /FrosTalk\ 12:07, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Bull's doesn't require adrenaline, doesn't cause exhaustion and it's Bull's Strike. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 12:03, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Steelfang = nerfed, why take Bull's and Coward? just because you can. /FrosTalk\ 11:54, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- why take bull's? coward is like an elite bull's that actually works. steelfang = recharge coward neway. (Kiron 11:51, 21 June 2008 (EDT))
- ^ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 11:26, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Nowai. You're not taking shock when you still can take b-strike. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 11:25, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
- Shock. -StarSeeker | My talk 09:32, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
why sword > axe for coward
TBH it just looks like you can charge coward faster with sun and moon. The deepwound + bleed is better than the deepwound found here, its just kind of inferior to it. Shock Axe>this.--UnderGunned 13:03, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
- Shock axe kindof owns everything, so thats a lousy argument. Yes, it even owns anti-melee. Brandnew. 13:06, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
- Any more the eviscerate executioners strike spike dont work that much but its fairly effective. Very weak against :::any type of anti-melee and shock is a costly interrupt skill. Art de rue 02:17, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
- good thing this doesn't use eviscerate or your comment might actually be funny and relevant... Oɱɳoɱɳoɱɳoɱ(nom)(nom) 02:23, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
- Axes suck without eviscerate in general. Swords don't need a elite(sever+gash+f-thrust/SaMS). That's why coward @ sword > axe, cos dismember ain't that gud. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:52, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
- Without eviscerate axes lose their incredible spiking power. minispiking with dismember>bb is good and all but swords (like everyone has already said) excel at lacking an elite, whereas axes just dont.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 18:25, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
- criplash owns evisc imo .. moar fun ;o .. i never rly played shock axe much( cuz spamming shock is something i cannot stop myself from doing ) CloseImpactToo Muh Bruh 06:13, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
- Stop making bad comments. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 10:56, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
- Shock Axe chain can be stopped with shield bash. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.127.55.122 (talk • contribs) 11:38, June 26, 2008 (CDT).
- ^Heeeeerrrrrrp Deeeerrrrrrrp.--66.192.104.13 20:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- year too late ip--Relyk 22:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- ^Heeeeerrrrrrp Deeeerrrrrrrp.--66.192.104.13 20:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Shock Axe chain can be stopped with shield bash. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.127.55.122 (talk • contribs) 11:38, June 26, 2008 (CDT).
- Stop making bad comments. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 10:56, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
- criplash owns evisc imo .. moar fun ;o .. i never rly played shock axe much( cuz spamming shock is something i cannot stop myself from doing ) CloseImpactToo Muh Bruh 06:13, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
- Without eviscerate axes lose their incredible spiking power. minispiking with dismember>bb is good and all but swords (like everyone has already said) excel at lacking an elite, whereas axes just dont.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 18:25, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
- Axes suck without eviscerate in general. Swords don't need a elite(sever+gash+f-thrust/SaMS). That's why coward @ sword > axe, cos dismember ain't that gud. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:52, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
- good thing this doesn't use eviscerate or your comment might actually be funny and relevant... Oɱɳoɱɳoɱɳoɱ(nom)(nom) 02:23, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
- Any more the eviscerate executioners strike spike dont work that much but its fairly effective. Very weak against :::any type of anti-melee and shock is a costly interrupt skill. Art de rue 02:17, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
Meta?
Where?--98.238.169.189 04:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Like...everywhere. Life 04:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Nice lie.--98.238.169.189 04:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- ^olol~WaffleZLOL(contribs) 07:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- I use this a lot as one of my war options.--Ikimono"My beard is thick." 08:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Mosty HA meta. --Frosty Mc Admin 11:14, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Mostly all-of-pvp meta. --173.65.149.85 00:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- Not seeing it in GvG. HA builds are all gimmicks if there is a war its hammer. Whirling Axe/Eviscerate are all I am seeing for Axe bars. Hero Battles lol. And TA builds use Whirling or gimmicks. Also, I use echo mending but that doesn't make it meta.--98.238.169.189 00:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- Mostly all-of-pvp meta. --173.65.149.85 00:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
- Mosty HA meta. --Frosty Mc Admin 11:14, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- I use this a lot as one of my war options.--Ikimono"My beard is thick." 08:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- ^olol~WaffleZLOL(contribs) 07:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Nice lie.--98.238.169.189 04:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
It's an HB/RA/HA bar mostly. Dunno about meta. Definitely used though--Goldenstar 00:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
soooo if you cant use bull strike simply dont play warrior, ty--Daniellange 14:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah because bulls is the same as coward in tombs where you can keep 1 guy in a full duration of 3 heats on a row. Oh, wait. Reunion 15:05, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Coward's like Bull's on steroids. --Frosty Mc Admin 15:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Coward's actually quite nice for knocklocking into aoe, anti-kiting, defensive and offensive play. I use this a good bit. --BlazingBurdy 18:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- BB. ACting like extra cool, eh? Know three words from the holy dictionary of Guild Wars, put em in a sentence and actually say something... 91.16.141.32 19:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- cool story bro~WaffleZLOL(contribs) 19:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- Come talk to me when ur signature's composed of more than just numbers and periods, scrub. BlazingBurdy 22:47, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- cool story bro~WaffleZLOL(contribs) 19:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- BB. ACting like extra cool, eh? Know three words from the holy dictionary of Guild Wars, put em in a sentence and actually say something... 91.16.141.32 19:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Shadow Refuge (/A)..
...should be in variants (minimum). It serves as one of the best regenerative self-heals for splitability while retaining total kd utility and rupt powahs with coward and d-chop [if used in a non-retarded manner]. --BlazingBurdy 03:16, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
- Ehm...no Tyrael I'm santa! 19:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know, that with something Like Death's Charge or Signet of Malice might be nice for a split. However, I'm fairly certain this is not a split build. Thomas So Dutch 20:31, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
- You're serious about even considering mainbarring Shadow Refuge on an axe bar? And why the hell would you need a regenerative self-heal for an in this case terrible secondary? ---Chaos- (moo) -- 20:41, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
Recent tactics buff
- I added Thrill of Victory in as an optional. Almost fully charges Coward in one hit as well as decreasing the time between spikes a bit. Fear Me might be worth putting as an optional as well but I haven't gotten around to trying that out yet. ~Khasar
- Thrill of Victory instead of Body Blow and "Fear Me!" in the optional slot with 8 tactics would be the way to go. 8 tactics is the break point for both of those skills which is nice Wazzaa4u 19:02, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
Fear me @8
BIG CRITS ALL THE TIME, your target's on the ground so often that you're PUMPing crits out with fear me. It's a very nice optional--TahiriVeila 19:35, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Take Thrill of Victory over bblow and you an spam coward like a bitch --Frosty 19:54, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
Tactics variant
I disagree with it being mainbarr'd, as the purely strength-oriented version (12-12-3) is used just as regularly as this one. I vote for the Str version to be the main bar and the tactics variant to have its own sub-section. Amorality 19:37, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Untrue... only the tactics is meta.... unless you watch HA. --Ajsnuker 20:55, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
Seeing alot of "To the Limit!"? Variant? 80.7.57.208 20:58, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
- imo there should b a strength variant and this tactics one w/ a meta tag because both r viable optionsKytan does pvp 01:40, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Except the tactics one is way better. And yeah i see a to the limit with soldier's speed variant thats pretty cool. idk what they use instead of thrill though. maybe thrill... hahaI Can Haz Pvp 02:17, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
So i herd some things lately
To The Limit is gud on this build. Add to variants BerserkerConan 21:16, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
- It's already in the variants....did you even read them?--TahiriVeila 21:30, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
This build doesn't look great damage wise, when you consider the low strength, etc. but after testing it seems to really hurt opponents. I suppose it has a lot to do with thrill of victory making your adrenal skills so readily available.. and a little bit to do with fear me.24.17.45.230 10:15, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
meta tag
It's still a functional build that should be kept around, but nobody runs it anymore. Should that only be reflected in commonality or should I just tag it back to great? --Lemming 20:46, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
- great. If nobody runs it, it's not meta. ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:57, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
- It's still rather popular--Ikimono1 21:24, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
- That's what the Great-category is for ^____^ --DANDY ^_^ -- 05:54, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
- I think it's very strong. KD + mild e-denial + Crits to punish non-kiters + Coward to punish kiters+ an awesome adren-boosting attack. It's full of win, tbh. --BlazingBurdy 07:50, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
- That's what the Great-category is for ^____^ --DANDY ^_^ -- 05:54, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
- It's still rather popular--Ikimono1 21:24, August 22, 2010 (UTC)