wasnt this trashed awhile ago? «Novii« 21:41, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Couldn't find it in 1 sec of searching. Also, someone sorta requested it on the P/A page. I don't care if this gets vetted or not, but I'm bored. ToraenTheJanitor 21:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- iirc this nearly got vetted. Worth another go, I like the idea. Hareemuhhh.talk? 22:01, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
- The one that was trashed had Wounding Strike for some reason. I posted this on my user page a while ago but got comments like "all scythe builds without WS are shit" - given it was Saint so i probably should have ignored. - AthrunFeya - 23:46, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
- who needs dw, spam gogo--Relyk talk 01:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- ^ actually a good build (makes me sad they ubernerfed Aggressive though)--Ikimono "...And my axe!" 03:22, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- wuts prot spirit m8. Life Guardian 03:22, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- An energy sapper. Cracked armor was good because it was extra energy for Foul Feast or extra heath for Restore Condition. :| --Ikimono "...And my axe!" 01:16, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- wuts prot spirit m8. Life Guardian 03:22, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- ^ actually a good build (makes me sad they ubernerfed Aggressive though)--Ikimono "...And my axe!" 03:22, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- that was frosty. and yea, what do i know, i suq at gil wor. Gringo 03:34, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- who needs dw, spam gogo--Relyk talk 01:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
If the dagger spammer is Great, this should be Greater. 216.195.26.128 18:51, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
That d/w critical scythe build has no deep wound I'm pretty sure, so this should get vetted imo. Hareemuhhh.talk? 19:04, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
Why would I use this over a D/P that has more energy when this build doesn't use leadership skills? Greevar 22:09, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- shouts supply energy, its how leadership works. Gringo 22:32, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- TNTF is based off leadership as well. Hareemuhhh.talk? 22:33, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
- what else are you going to use on a paragon?--Relyk talk 03:49, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- "SY!"...that's about it since the nerf.--72.189.80.199 05:27, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
- what else are you going to use on a paragon?--Relyk talk 03:49, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
Good?
Can someone please explain what makes the Build:P/A Dagger Spammer better than this build? 216.195.26.128 03:55, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- better ias, better attack rate therefore quicker adren gain, meaning tpiy is more maintainable on the sin build. - AthrunFeya - 11:03, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- ...at the expense of AoE damage increased by 20...30...32%. Also, there's no reason why you couldn't use Drunken Master on this build too. Widow maker 12:22, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- scythe is still inherently slower than daggers :p - AthrunFeya - 12:25, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- All that is only true if you are only fighting a single foe. A scythe vs a mob generates more adrenaline and more damage than daggers. 216.195.26.128 15:18, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Plus though some dagger attacks now have fast activations, so do Eremite's and Mystic, so it's a trade-off between a bit faster (and thus more damage) and AoEness. Widow maker 02:08, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- lol P/A is great while P/D is good, but W/D is great and W/A is good. So much for the ratings. :P 216.195.26.128 17:05, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
- ^ this. Build ratings need to be more or less normalized. Baselessly voting /A and /D into separate categories and contrary to other primaries is pretty dumb. ··· Danny So Cute 14:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- For some reason W/D deals way more damage than P/D. I suppose that's cause wars have Flail and paras don't. So for a para /A is rated higher because it's better than /D. Other way round for wars. ;3 Oh and I lol'd at your comment about scythes. You rarely ball stuff that means you rarely abuse aoe effect of your scythe. General PvE faggotry is all about making as much damage on a single target as possible since you get anough aoe damage from things such as splinter or arage and balling foes often takes time and doesnt bring that much benefit. Finally I want to say that W/D does more damage on a single target than W/A! :3 --Myotheraccount 14:45, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Take an IAS on P/D tbh. Aggressive or DMaster both work. (Not to mention, a W/D can't take TNtF.) ··· Danny So Cute 14:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- 33% > 25% + armor penetration. :> I actually dunno now. It really is funny how these builds are vetted. Not that they are so far apart performance-wise to make the diference between good and great. o.o; Btw, gww is gay. < unrelated minirant. --Myotheraccount 14:52, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
- speaking of which (since your userpage and talk page are broken), who are you and why do i get the feeling that i know who you are? ··· Danny So Cute 14:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- You don't know me. I had my main account perma'd and stopped making socks long before you were "born". That's unless ofcourse you are someone's sock/fresh account. :> --Myotheraccount 15:00, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
- I am, in fact, exactly that. Also, did you get banned on GWW? ··· Danny So Cute 15:07, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- You don't know me. I had my main account perma'd and stopped making socks long before you were "born". That's unless ofcourse you are someone's sock/fresh account. :> --Myotheraccount 15:00, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
- speaking of which (since your userpage and talk page are broken), who are you and why do i get the feeling that i know who you are? ··· Danny So Cute 14:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- 33% > 25% + armor penetration. :> I actually dunno now. It really is funny how these builds are vetted. Not that they are so far apart performance-wise to make the diference between good and great. o.o; Btw, gww is gay. < unrelated minirant. --Myotheraccount 14:52, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Take an IAS on P/D tbh. Aggressive or DMaster both work. (Not to mention, a W/D can't take TNtF.) ··· Danny So Cute 14:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- For some reason W/D deals way more damage than P/D. I suppose that's cause wars have Flail and paras don't. So for a para /A is rated higher because it's better than /D. Other way round for wars. ;3 Oh and I lol'd at your comment about scythes. You rarely ball stuff that means you rarely abuse aoe effect of your scythe. General PvE faggotry is all about making as much damage on a single target as possible since you get anough aoe damage from things such as splinter or arage and balling foes often takes time and doesnt bring that much benefit. Finally I want to say that W/D does more damage on a single target than W/A! :3 --Myotheraccount 14:45, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
- ^ this. Build ratings need to be more or less normalized. Baselessly voting /A and /D into separate categories and contrary to other primaries is pretty dumb. ··· Danny So Cute 14:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
- lol P/A is great while P/D is good, but W/D is great and W/A is good. So much for the ratings. :P 216.195.26.128 17:05, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Plus though some dagger attacks now have fast activations, so do Eremite's and Mystic, so it's a trade-off between a bit faster (and thus more damage) and AoEness. Widow maker 02:08, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
- All that is only true if you are only fighting a single foe. A scythe vs a mob generates more adrenaline and more damage than daggers. 216.195.26.128 15:18, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- scythe is still inherently slower than daggers :p - AthrunFeya - 12:25, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
- ...at the expense of AoE damage increased by 20...30...32%. Also, there's no reason why you couldn't use Drunken Master on this build too. Widow maker 12:22, March 6, 2010 (UTC)